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Old 03-14-2014, 08:00 AM
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Relationship evidence: How much is too much?

Or how much is enough?

We have uploaded lots of relationship evidence, we have fulfilled the four broad criteria as completely as we could....I don't feel as though we left any glaring gaps. We've lived and breathed this application for the past year.

Today, we got two letters addressed to the both of us at home and my first thought was not "wow, great a card from friends who love us and a postcard from my grandma who is on a cruise".... My first thought was "gotta upload this evidence". How ridiculous is that?

How and when did everyone decide that they had submitted enough evidence and when they could start to breathe and not be on that one way track all the time?

Also, can you ever have too much evidence? Is there ever a point where the evidence you submit starts becoming so ridiculously copious that it looks contrived, fake and arouses suspicion and doubts rather than allay them in the mind of the CO?

Ugh. This feels so complicated.

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Old 03-14-2014, 08:04 AM
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I personally would say don't upload them. With the online application I am assuming that the rule still stands that evidence dated after your application is not gonna help in any way at all and will just be more paperwork for a CO to have to wade through.....probably best to file them and maybe use them for your 801 down the track.
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Old 03-14-2014, 08:20 AM
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Hi, apparently with the online application you can continue to submit evidence until time of decision and they will take it into account. It's only evidence that relates to time of lodgement criteria (like the 12 months cohabitation for de facto etc) that doesn't make a difference. At least that is what I have been led to believe.

I have become an evidence uploading machine and it is insanely crazy! I definitely do need to slow down!

I've already uploaded the mail from today - that's my point, I rushed inside and used my iPad to scan and upload the mail, when what I should have done is enjoyed the fact that I received such thoughtful mail from people who love us.


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I'd also say don't upload. Honestly? I had way less evidence than most people on this forum. I don't think we included many letters, we had just two Form 888s, basically the bare minimum to satisfy each category. I was nervous, especially after finding these forums again and reading about the huge amount of evidence other people provided, but I was satisfied that I had fulfilled each requirement. When I was in communication with my CO, I breezed through--no requests for more information, any inquiries if they wanted extra bank statements or more stat decs refused, visa granted with ease.

I think, if you feel you don't have any gaps, you should relax and stop worrying about it! Easier said than done, I know, but your husband is from a low-risk country and it sounds like from your previous posts you're pretty well-versed in the whole visa process and there aren't any other complications. I think you have enough evidence for immigration--probably more than enough. You'll sail through.

Obviously, you can keep the letters and stuff around and supply them to Immi if they request more information, or keep them as evidence for the 801. We have a little box of evidence we've collected over the past year since applying for the 820. It's easy to just toss it in and forget about it, but have it all in one place if we end up needing it later.

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Old 03-14-2014, 08:24 AM
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Hi, apparently with the online application you can continue to submit evidence until time of decision and they will take it into account. .
That would be seriously unfair in comparison to the paper people who basically have to have everything good to go at lodgement.....

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Old 03-14-2014, 08:29 AM
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Hi, yeah, that's a good idea. I do have an accordion file thing which I've used to compile evidence before submitting the application. I might get another one for future evidence.

It's a good idea to think ahead for the 801 - and at least if I'm saving it for use in the future, it might satisfy my obsession to micro-manage things.

I should mention that my personality naturally lends itself to the desire to micro-manage and I'm very much a perfectionist and very detail oriented. It serves me well in some respects (my profession etc) but it does affect my day to day life and my stress levels a lot. OCD is often joked about as a desirable trait "I wish I was OCD so my house was as clean as yours etc" but in reality it can be very difficult, this is a good case in point.

Thank you everyone, for your support in this thread and in the general forum. This is a wonderful safe place and you are all a credit to the forum xxxx

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Old 03-14-2014, 08:32 AM
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That would be seriously unfair in comparison to the paper people who basically have to have everything good to go at lodgement.....
Hi, this is what Mark Northam wrote in his Ask Mark! Thread regarding evidence submitted after lodgement.

"Re: additional evidence submitted after partner visa lodged: YES, they will consider it, and I've seen it make a HUGE difference in some cases. If a requirement is time-of-application (ie, defacto 12-month living together requirement) then additional info about living together BEFORE the time of application is good, but make sure you know whether a requirement is time-of-application (ie, must have been met at the time of application) or time-of-decision (evidence can be considered and added up until the point of decision) - big difference"

I have heard of people submitting paper visas who continue to email or send in new evidence, so maybe it is also possible for paper applications as well? If not, then yes it is incredibly unfair

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I understand! I don't have OCD myself, but I do have a couple of friends who have it, and I've seen how stressed it can make them sometimes. Definitely try thinking in terms of the 801 if you think it will help. Keeping a stash of stuff for the 801 has certainly made me feel a bit more organized and calm, particularly when I was still waiting for the 820 to be granted. Now I'm feeling so much more prepared for the second stage than I was for the first. Good luck with it all!

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I think healthy balance would be 1-2 pieces of evidence to satisfy each category

Me on the other hand - I am a slow uploader We still have many gaps to fill, but since Poland tends to be treated like high risk country I will wait for CO a long while Plus we started living together only 3,5 months ago so we are still gathering most of shared household/finances evidence to upload.

it will be ok, don't worry

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Old 03-14-2014, 08:40 AM
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Thank you, Inkhearted!

I definitely love the idea of looking forward to the 801 so I can satisfy my urge to plan and organise and prepare.

Thank you for the advice, much appreciated xxxx

Koll - i know it seems daunting at first, but it will all come together for you, and for me

I'm so lucky my husband is from a low-risk country because if he was from a high risk country I'm sure I would be in an insane asylum by now!

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