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Question re: "Living Together" requirement of DeFacto Visa Application


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Old 09-27-2010, 12:04 AM
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Question re: "Living Together" requirement of DeFacto Visa Application

Hi, I am new here and I couldn't see any specific answers to my question so I thought I might post and see if anyone has any light to shed for me.

I am an Australian Citizen who met my parter about 20 months ago whilst working on a Cruise Ship in the US. We have been living together on the ship since April 2009 however we were seperated on different ships from late Feb-early June of this year due to scheduling conflicts. We were planning to apply for his Partner Visa early next year, however we are worried they won't count the time together on board as living together as we have no joint leases or bills to show (our room and board is part of our salary here). We have contracts showing we were on the same ship and we have forms that give us permission to have a cabin together, but no other documents. We share what little expenses we have, but it's not really much! We have spent 2 months of this year living with his family in Canada, also.

He is coming to stay in Oz with me for 3 months early next year and we plan to get his name on all my bills (I own a house in Melbourne) and open joint accounts in Oz (we have one in Canada) etc to show his intent to live here. However, we have been unable to get solid advice on whether the time we have been together on board will count as time living together. We would hate to put in his application and then have it be rejected.

Anyone have any idea on whether they will consider it?

I am sorry if this has already been asked, I looked back through about 10 pages and couldn't see a thread like this one.


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Old 09-27-2010, 07:30 AM
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The requirements for a relationship get raised regularly and most recently discussed @ http://www.australiaforum.com/visas-...-required.html , your situation being more than a tad unusual.

It is probably what has been happening from June until now that may be most pertinent and it would have been of great assistance to your cause if you had something by way of specific documentation for all the time you were cabinned together, like a statement from the Ship's or Ships' Captains or other reponsible officers if more than one on the Lines letterhead.

But without that and then if there has been time in between since June and until early next year, without solid reasoning I'd expect you would have trouble proving your relationship to the extent necessary.
You will see from the CAQ re 12 months relationship in the eligibility section there is an example given for a couple separated for some months because of work but it still needs to be seen as within a 12 months period.
Depending on what the plans are after the three months early next year, you may want to consider looking at getting a relationship registration via the B,D& Ms office to get the 12 months waived.





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Thank you so much for your reply!

I have the email from the Staff Captain (second in command) giving us permission to live together and I have the forms we filled in with the Crew Office, so that might help. We are thinking we may delay applying for another year and go do one more ship together, but if they don't count any of that time as living together we may be screwed...

My next question is: can we register a relationship with BD&M if he isn't an Australian Citizen/Resident?


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Old 09-28-2010, 12:21 AM
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Yes you can do that though it can be tricky in that he will need to have some secondary local ID like a Vic. drivers or shooters licence to go with his passport and if you ask, the BDM response may be something like he needs to be on more than a tourist visa and you need to have been together longer.
If he can get the drivers or shooters licence I would be inclined to just submit the application with details/documents of all your ship life time together and see how you go for it is only $180 or something like that and worth a go.





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