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Old 03-19-2014, 12:14 PM
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820 Partner visa-Online or paper

Hi all, I have just joined this forum as it is amazing and I have some really good checklists made from it! thank you all.

I have a question, I am starting to gather information for my visa. I am the applicant (irish/british)and my partner is an Australian Citizen. We will be applying for a same-sex defacto visa. We have all relevant information, and everything is legit- I guess it's just proving it with heaps of paperwork.

I have started the process of the online application, have only got as far as the first few questions. Having reading the forum I see going in face to face or applying by post may be better. Can I change the way I am applying as I have already started the online application? Is there an option to print the online application and then apply by post?

I have only started the form in which I need to fill in online, have not paid or anything yet.

Any input on the above question would be really appreciated! And also any input/tips would be amazing.

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Old 03-19-2014, 12:18 PM
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Most Immigration office locations are no longer allowing you to submit in person. If you are going to submit on paper, you have to submit by post/courier.

Where did you get the idea that paper applications were better? Though the online option is new, a lot of people are finding it convenient that you can continue to upload new evidence you may have while waiting for your visa to be processed. Also, there is speculation (PURELY speculation at this point) that applying online may actually decrease processing time. I fully intend to use the online system for my 820 application at the end of this month.

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Most Immigration office locations are no longer allowing you to submit in person. If you are going to submit on paper, you have to submit by post/courier.

Where did you get the idea that paper applications were better? Though the online option is new, a lot of people are finding it convenient that you can continue to upload new evidence you may have while waiting for your visa to be processed. Also, there is speculation (PURELY speculation at this point) that applying online may actually decrease processing time. I fully intend to use the online system for my 820 application at the end of this month.
Collegegirl, thank you for the reply. I have just seen on here that apparently it would be better. I seen a lot of posts where people has their visa approved in a couple of days with having everything in folders and in great order. Do you think I should just continue with the online application I have started? Thanks again


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Old 03-19-2014, 12:25 PM
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Hey Susan - welcome!

I don't think there is any benefit it applying on paper. I think they would prefer people to move to the new system and it makes things a lot easier for you.

With online, you can simply scan all your documents in colour and upload - no need for certification of copies etc.

Plus, you get the bridging Visa automatically within about 5 minutes, and can then spend up to a few weeks uploading your evidence.

You can actually keep uploading all the way through the processing time too if you find some evidence you forgot or get new stuff.

What state are you in? You might like to register your relationship if you haven't already and if you're eligible, seeing as Australia is a bit behind with marriage equality! That can add weight to your application.

I definitely vote for online.

You can still print the paper forms and submit by post if you really want to though, and the forms are available here

https://www.immi.gov.au/Visas/Pages/801-820.aspx

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Old 03-19-2014, 12:28 PM
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Susan - any 820 applications you see granted in just a couple of days are likely people who started with a Prospective Marriage Visa (aka fiancee visa) and then had to apply for the 820 after their marriage. Those folks have already been determined to be legitimate couples, so Immigration basically just has to tick a few boxes and they're granted. People getting their 820s granted in just a couple of days when they did NOT come from a fiancee visa are like unicorns - you may see one or two, but they're flukes. 99.9% of people waiting on an 820 straight-out are waiting AT LEAST 6 months, usually a year or longer. No amount of organizing your files will change that - and in fact, the online system makes needing to organize that way unnecessary as it's already set up to ask you for your evidence in an organized way.

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Yes the online system is extremely organised - and obviously organised the way they would like the stuff filed so you can't go wrong

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Agree with CollegeGirl - Ive never seen an 820 on here granted in a few days unless they are PMV folk..... Normal 820 a few MONTHS is freakishly fast!

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Old 03-19-2014, 01:54 PM
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Go online!! Won't somebody think of the trees??

But seriously, online really seems so much easier and simpler and we have had migration agents on here state that they honestly can't see why anyone would submit a paper application if they have the online application available to them. I tend to agree.

Unless, you're one of those people who naturally likes handling papers and organising bits and pieces into folders with post-it's and what not, in which case you might actually enjoy the paper application

P.S I wasn't being facetious with my last comment. My best friend is one such person and she loves stationery, pens and fiddling around with bits of paper. She would compile visa applications for a hobby I think, lol. Not me......

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Thanks all for the replies and feedback. I agree to trees!!
I am currently on a 457 visa kangaroogirl, my partner an I have been given the opportunity to work away. Going through direct entry stream is over a year away, so looks like this is our best option. We have just sent the forms away to register the relationship, so they will be back soon. Thanks again collegegirl. Looks like online is the way to go!!
I have a couple of other questions. sorry hope you don't mind!!
I believe I get to a certain stage in my application then I have to pay. When I pay for it is that the lodging date? Or do I have to press the submit button when I have everything uploaded and that's the submit date? I know my partner has to submit her form, is this only doable when I submit my form?
Also has anyone heard of any dramas with same-sex partner visas? It's tough proving to people we are actually together at present( people stereotype, apparently we don't look like we could be together, looks wise), never mind immigration? Would it be a good idea to submit engagement ring purchase/layby?
Thanks again. Hopefully some day I will be able to help others like you guys help too!


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Thank you all for your answers and input!! I agree, lets save the trees and go online!! I am currently on a 457 visa, though my partner and I have had an opportunity to work away and we want to take it. Obviously I am tied to work, and the direct entry opportunity will not be available for almost over a year. We have also just registered our relationship, hope to hear back in a few days how that went. Folks I have a few other questions.
-Has anyone heard that seam-sex couples have had issues with the partner visa?
-Also I believe when I get to a certain stage in the online visa form (applicant) I will have to pay to proceed. Does anyone know the steps involved after paying, it it only attaching the documents? Also when I pay the charge, is this technically the lodge date? Or Is the lodge date when I upload all the documents, complete the visa and click submit?
- Does the applicant (me) upload all the documents? Will my partner have to upload any documents? Or is there certain things each person uploads?
- I see it asks for bank statements, is this for every month from both of us?
Sorry a million questions! All help appreciated. Hope some day I can help others too


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