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Together 4.5 years, 801 possibly issued right away?


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Old 10-04-2010, 10:54 AM
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Smile Together 4.5 years, 801 possibly issued right away?

Hi all,

First of all, what an amazing resource this site is! I'll be sure and add our experience to the stickies to keep information fresh!

Anyhow, in brief we have been living together as a couple for 4.5 years, I am from the midwest and my fiance is brisbane born and bred. We moved back to Australia so I could study (4 years remaining). Having gotten engaged last week we've been looking into getting PR and were told we should consider a de-facto PR application as we have overwhelming evidence of our continuing relationship and shared life (joint leases, utilities, scrapbook for every year together etc) but we have some questions about this.

- One reason to not wait for a marriage 801/820 would be my eligibility to move to domestic full fee instead of international ($15K a year, i have 4 years left) but this hinges on my being issued a 801 without the two year temporary visa. Does anybody know the likelihood of this or has gone through this process? We definitely meet the minimum 3 year threshold for consideration of immediate approval for 801 but not sure how common this is allowed or if it is approved ever for de facto vs married at all..

- Some people have mentioned if you aren't issued 801 at the time of applying for both, you can still request approval during the two year waiting period on 820. Anybody experienced this?

- Is there any disadvantage to pursuing the de facto now versus waiting for a married 820/801 visa? We are genuinely planning a wedding but my midwest momma wants the whole shebang and that's at least two years away.

- Background - Zero police history, recent perfect medicals and a wealth of shared travel/cohabitation documents/photographs.

Thank you all for any input you can give, I look forward to giving back to this wonderful community (you've already answered so many questions!)

- Andrea


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Old 10-04-2010, 02:27 PM
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I'm not aware of anybody reporting on the forum of having got PR off the bat but that is not to say it will not occur and the three years qualifier was up until a year or so ago five years so the reduction ought to have it in all COs minds to some extent.

The wording as you may have noticed uses the word " may " and that I imagine is just to give room for discretion and so if you have a good case, plenty of evidence and put together a good application, you should be in with a chance.
If you lodge the application in person, you could even ask whether you should highlight or make a note on how you have a relationship over the three years and the receiving person may have something to say about it.

I'd say if you meet all the requirements, there's no reason not to go for it ASAP and as soon as you have it, there's a huge financial bonus for you.





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I would suggest highlighting in your cover letter that you wish to be considered for PR due to the length of your relationship and the solid evidence. My partner and I have applied for a spouse visa for him, we have been together more than two years and have a child together. This is the other example of 'may be considered for PR'. I was advised by Global Help to highlight in the covering letter that we want to be considered for PR and why, rather than assuming they will automatically note that we qualify for consideration. We're still waiting on the outcome!

I have an aussie/Irish couple as friends and they successfully applied for PR for her as they'd been in a relationship longer than 5 years. They applied last year and it was granted early this year. I didn't realise the requirement was now reduced to 3 years

Good Luck!


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