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Old 10-05-2010, 10:34 PM
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De Facto Application

Hi All..

My partner and I have been gathering our documents for our de facto application offshore in November. I realized that although we are in a genuine relationship, the whole proving it process is becoming a bit of a nightmare and we are both feeling a little bit pressured.

This is going to be a long story guys. All I want to know is if it the right thing to do and if we have a strong application here.

My partner and I met abroad (june 2008) and have experienced recession. We have worked together (july 2008) for almost 8 months and we have grown really close to each other. When he lost his job (march 2009) as a contractor in the company I am working for, we started going out and just a month after we decided to get really serious in the relationship. We were thinking of moving in together as soon as the lease I share with my flatmate expires and move in with him. Just as soon we decided doing that, he got a notice from his company that he has to be sent back to Sydney in a month. So the whole living in together never happened. We were basically living-in together for two months until he left.

When he's back in Sydney (july 2009) we had constant communication, skype and emails mostly. I came to visit him in Sept. 2009 for 3 weeks, he paid for my flight and when i got back to work, a week later I got my redundancy. So, that was what we wanted to happen so that we can move on with our plans in staying together. I didn't come back to Sydney until Feb 2010 since I haven't been home to my family for almost 3 years, so i thought I should be with family although he wants me to be in Sydney and spend Xmas and New Year together.

At this point my questions are:
Neither of us remember the exact date when we first met. Month and year we know, but the date, we can't figure it out.
Neither of us remember the exact date on when we decided to finally be in a de facto.
I know these dates are important, but is it right to guess when it was, or just ebing honest about the date is better and just put the month and year?
Are skype chats, calls and emails prove our relationship while we were apart?


Now, I have been in Sydney on a visitor visa since Feb 2010. We have travelled to Japan, New Zealand, Melbourne etc. With the bills everything is under his name. We just don't see the point of changing it to mine or to us both until i am financially capable of contributing and is here permanently. As of the moment, he has been transferring grocery money, shopping money and other expenses into my account. We just opened a joint account in May for us to start saving for our expenses for the visa application. But for the most part, it's him depositing money in the joint account. The whole time I am here, he has been supporting us financially. While i am in charge of keeping the house tidy, prepares dinner - mostly household chores. I have met his family this year as well and he is going to meet mine in December.

We both know we are in a genuine relationship and we thought of getting married in the future. But for now.. My question is, do we have enough evidence here to prove our relationship?

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Old 10-06-2010, 03:22 AM
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Your exact date of when you first met is probably not so relevant and June 08 is close enough but if you have not had a good read of the eligibility requirements and Booklet#1 etc. do so via Family - Visas & Immigration
The sticky thread by elkitten in top of this section may help you too.
The time of the 12 months relationship requirement would probably commence from when you came to Sydney in February 2010.
You may want to consider getting a relationship registration which you can do via the NSW Births, Deaths and Marriages registry and getting that done will waive the specific 12 months requirement but you will still need to provide evidence as outlined in Booklet #1.





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Hi Wanderer,

Yeah, I have read that thread and it gave me a bit of confidence still although you have said that the 12 months should commence in Feb this year.

We are actually looking into that but it will take 28+ days to get it registered. I will be back in my country on the 25th of this month. I know I will have to submit the 12 months evidence, but I strongly believe that if we have our relationship registered, that will probably make a huge difference. But wouldn't that look dodgy applying for it the last minute?

How much do you know about this relationship registration by the way? I remember my partner telling me that we should have our relationship registered in March, but when I look it up, there was no registration for NSW. And I thought I'd look it up again and there you go, started July 1st this year. If only I could've checked earlier..

But I suppose that even if we apply for it the last minute, it will still mean a lot to the application. Better than not registered at all, I reckon.

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Also, having said that, does that mean that if we get a our relationship registered then we don't need to provide the "single status" certificate? Just wondering.


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I think it was someone on here who has already done the NSW registration who indicated it was fairly straightforward whereas Victorias may be a little more onerous in their requirements.
As for the not needing the single status certificate, I'm no wiser on that but it would make sense if you already had a relationship registration that it would not be necessary and in any case, it sounds more like a certificate if you are planning to marry.
If you are committed to leaving on the 25th. that's another issue but as long as it is only very temporary, it may not be a problem but if planning on staying away until past Xmas, that could be creating a difficulty for you and all the more reason to get the relationship registered and you could mention in applying for it that you've got plans for a temporary absence.





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I think it was someone on here who has already done the NSW registration who indicated it was fairly straightforward whereas Victorias may be a little more onerous in their requirements.
As for the not needing the single status certificate, I'm no wiser on that but it would make sense if you already had a relationship registration that it would not be necessary and in any case, it sounds more like a certificate if you are planning to marry.
If you are committed to leaving on the 25th. that's another issue but as long as it is only very temporary, it may not be a problem but if planning on staying away until past Xmas, that could be creating a difficulty for you and all the more reason to get the relationship registered and you could mention in applying for it that you've got plans for a temporary absence.
Many many thanks Wanderer..


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Hi Wanderer,

I just got this email from BDM after asking if they issue an acknowledgment once they have received our Relationship Registration.

"We do not issue these confirmations anymore because I believe that immigration will not process a visa application until there is a relationship certificate supplied. You will need to check with them."

This can't be right. Although she has mentioned that I have to check with immigration, there is no way Immigration will not process the application without the registration, correct?

Anyway, we have decided to register our relationship regardless. We might just have to wait for the certificate of the registry for 28 days then.


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I would not think that Immigration would process a visa in regard to a relationship registration with just ever having had a lodgement acknowledgement and I would not read too much into the way the reply has been worded.
Essentially, you get registered and then add that to your application and no reason why you cannot proceed with getting the immigration application ready.





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