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Old 10-11-2010, 08:19 AM
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Starting application for de facto visa

Hi guys,

Looking for some confirmation on the order of what forms and certificates we should be preparing. Some background information first:

I'm an Australian citizen, girlfriend of 3 years is Japanese. We've been living together by ourselves with both names on lease since early August 2009, meaning we've already amassed 14 months living together. We have a joint account which we opened in May 2010, prior to that I have documented monthly transfers from her account to mine to pay for rent and bills. We're both tertiary students, she's here on a student visa at TAFE (subclass number slips my mind) which is valid until mid-March 2011, I am a second-year university student doing a three-year Bachelors degree.

We're both working part-time, but I'm receiving Youth Allowance as a student and my last financial years' taxable income was ~$15k. My parents are willing to give an Assurance of Support though. She's maintained her job for the past 6 months and they've guaranteed her a full-time position when she finishes TAFE in November and she'll be looking at approximately $30kpa.

So far, can anyone find any possible hinderances? Any grey areas?

We've decided to start preparing all our documentation with the intention of lodging our application in late-November. My questions are:

1. We've booked the medical and will be posting off her National Police Check form soon. Are there any other "checks" necessary to undertake prior to applying?

2. How much weighting is given to "subjective" evidence of a de facto relationship (photos, anniversary cards, etc)? For example, we've got plenty of bank records, our phones are on the same bill, we've got plane tickets booked together, etc.. but we're not the type who take photos together very often. We do have some photos going back a while (especially at the beginning of our relationship), and we both have photos with each others' families. Will this suffice?

3. I've read in other threads that a stat dec from parents on both sides is advantageous, however neither of my girlfriend's parents can speak English. Getting a stat dec and having it translated and certified would be quite a royal pain. If we were to go without, would it harm our chances tremendously?

4. Other than my family and our mutual friends, are there any other people who you would recommend getting stat decs from?

5. Any tips from those who've been through a similar situation? I'm fairly confident we'll be fine but having ~$3k on the line makes it a little nerve-racking.

Any help is greatly appreciated!


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Seems like you are getting well organised with plenty of time in hand and that's a great start and good documentation which shows the relationship timeframe will always be more impirtant than photos and cards etc.
Re the Japanese parents, short of having a statutory declaration by them translated and certified, it not being considered an Australian statutory declaration anyway, you could do something halfway kind of and have them write up a joint statement or separate statements in the Japanes equivalent of a statutory declaration[ your girlfriend could always give them a skeleton of a statement for them to flesh out ] and then if your girlfriend has some Japanese/English language friends here, they may be prepared to then look at an english version by your girlfriend and make a statutory declaration here that the one from Japan and the translation are consistent and so it'll not be so much of a pain.

As for other statements, does anyone at her work know of your relationship and in addition to a statement about future potential employment they may be able to add something on the relationship knowledge or just her mindset re it.
And then of course if there are any friends outside of the family, from Uni or wherever a couple will not hurt.
Have a look at the sticky thread by el kitten and see if there's anything more there to be gleaned.

With police checks and you mention the National check, if you mean AFP, yes that's required as is one from Japan.





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As for other statements, does anyone at her work know of your relationship and in addition to a statement about future potential employment they may be able to add something on the relationship knowledge or just her mindset re it.
Yep, and I'm sure I can get a statement from her manager to verify our relationship and also give an assurance of employment of sorts. I actually hadn't thought of this, thanks for bringing it up.

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With police checks and you mention the National check, if you mean AFP, yes that's required as is one from Japan.
Is the foreign check necessary? I can't find the page now, but I'm sure I read before that it was only necessary for countries in which you had lived for more than 12 months since the age of 16. She's been in Australia on consecutive student visas for the past 6 years (since the age of 14), only returning to Japan for a few weeks every year. Anyway, thanks for bringing this up too, I'll have to explore this more.

We've booked her medical for next week Thursday. What happens afterwards? Are the results mailed to us? or do they get mailed to DIAC? How long does it usually take?

Thanks for all your help so far!


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Is the foreign check necessary? I can't find the page now, but I'm sure I read before that it was only necessary for countries in which you had lived for more than 12 months since the age of 16. She's been in Australia on consecutive student visas for the past 6 years (since the age of 14), only returning to Japan for a few weeks every year. Anyway, thanks for bringing this up too, I'll have to explore this more.
An unusual situation that and you'll find the reference re where lived after age of 16 under the Character Requirements on Partner Visa: Onshore Temporary and Permanent (Subclasses 820 and 801) and though one from Japan in theory would not be required, Immi can request whatever they feel is appropriate and it'd not hurt to see if you can get some advice on it as I'd feel the intent is to always have a report from ones home country.
The Health Requirement Link has all the detail on that and the medical examination report is supposed to be sent direct to Immi by the examiner though some people have made posts where one way or another they end up with the report.
If it gets handed to her, it'll be best to just say that they should be sending it off.





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An unusual situation that and you'll find the reference re where lived after age of 16 under the Character Requirements on Partner Visa: Onshore Temporary and Permanent (Subclasses 820 and 801) and though one from Japan in theory would not be required, Immi can request whatever they feel is appropriate and it'd not hurt to see if you can get some advice on it as I'd feel the intent is to always have a report from ones home country.
No problems, thanks for the advice (and the link).

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The Health Requirement Link has all the detail on that and the medical examination report is supposed to be sent direct to Immi by the examiner though some people have made posts where one way or another they end up with the report.
If it gets handed to her, it'll be best to just say that they should be sending it off.
Surely they wouldn't have the results to give to her on the spot? I was under the impression that blood tests took weeks to process, and was expecting the results to not be ready for at least a fortnight, unless they process them onsite?

The problem is that we aren't entirely ready to submit our full application with the DIAC yet, so if they're ready on-the-spot, they'll likely receive the medical results before our application! We're planning to submit the application in approximately 2 weeks time, and the medical is booked a week from today. We're also posting off the AFP check tomorrow which has an estimated 2 week wait IIRC.

I'm now considering whether to postpone the medical to a later date. I don't have a problem doing so, but with the increasing wait times on approval decisions by COs I wanted to make sure we would get in well ahead the gf's student visa expiring.


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I do not know that blood tests are a standard part of the examination and I've not seen anyone ever posting on that in depth an examination unless someone has a condition that warrants it and they would in that case usually have speciallists reports to submit to the examiner.
They do marry up helath reports by name DOB and Passport No. etc. and hers will not be the first medical report to have ever turned up a week or so prior to a visa application and they do go to different locations in the first place.





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