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Old 04-02-2014, 02:08 PM
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Bstex, the term de facto is defined as living together. So if you have not lived together, you can't claim time as a de facto couple. Just wanted to clarify that...

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This is what I'm worried about! We actually met in May 2012 but we're are counting from September as our 'de facto' date..

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Thank you and I appreciate all the info very much! This is really the only part of our application we are worried about. I reckon in total we will have lived together for 10 months, and continue to do so. I know it all depends on C.O's and such, but we feel we can show that we have been in a genuine de facto relationship for the required time. We are both fairly young (well 24!) and feel its a bit old fashioned for relationships to be based on whether you lived together. I know these are the rules of the visa, and this is why it concerns us! We have stuff to show that even when I was on the farm we visited each other, and feel we can explain why we haven't lived together, backed up with evidence....but don't want to be refused point blank just because of this one fact.
Unfortunately none of this matters. The visa states you must have been living together for 12 months minimum before applying, or be married. There are only a few specific things that can waive this, and the relationship registration is one if those. Visiting each other is simply not counted as living in a de facto relationship.

Based on your current circumstances you don't meet the criteria for the partner visa. If you apply hastily, no matter how strong the evidence is to show a genuine relationship, you'll be refused because you don't meet the most basic criteria for this visa.

Have you considered getting married? That would waive the 12 month requirement.

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Hi valentine, just to clarify we have been together since September 2012 so over 18 months now
I'm sorry to say but they don't and won't care!! I was in the same position when my fiancee and I went to apply. Met mid 2011,became 'exclusive later that year....from early 2012 only spent a handful of night's apart but because only officially moved in together at the end of the year...

- had financial evidence (no shared account) but money transfers,shared expenses for holidays etc,him paying for my mobile etc
- heaps of travel together
- social evidence coming out of our eyeballs
- nature of commitment - plans for future etc

but when we wanted to lodge in June 2013 so 18 months after we considered ourselves to be defacto...we were told we didn't have a chance because we only had the same residential address for 6 months - we had extremely compelling reasons as to why we delayed that decision..but again...it doesn't matter....If you lodge now...you will be rejected!

There is an agent here who had a client who was 1 day short of 12 months,got visa denied...

unless you are willing to get married or can register your relationship I would suggest looking at alternatives to get some more time co-habitating otherwise you could be setting yourself up for a very costly mistake.

also avoid calling her your 'girlfriend' anywhere in your application....."dating" relationships are not considered serious enough for this visa - it is essentially for married couples or people already living as man and wife in every way just no certificate

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Ok guys so thanks for your great advice! We have decided to register our relationship in VIC as that's where we usually live...am I right in thinking this waives the 12 month rule? If so I feel that with that we have a strong application! Any more advice would be very welcome!


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Yes it waives the 12 months "if" you can register the relationship. The reason I say if is that Victoria are hardcore as in that they ask for 12 months proof that you have been residing together in Victoria.

Also remember the 12 months is just one aspect you still need proof like joint expenses etc.


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Hi Bstex,
I thought it would be worth letting you know that in order to register your relationship in Victoria, you have to be ordinarily resident in Victoria. I noticed that you stated you live together in Darwin. The reason I bring this up is that the partner visa (not to mention associated costs, including the cost of registering the relationship) is very expensive, and I'd hate to see someone invest time, money, and emotion in this only to be disappointed - and believe me, the emotional investment in the process can be equally or perhaps even more vexing than the financial. I think that the kindest advice I could give is, if you are serious about it, please, before investing anything into the visa process, please seek advice from a professional who will be able to assist you in determining the merits of your situation.


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Yes you can use samples just to show continuous contact, don't need to provide every single Page.
Quick question on this kinda line....how would you show emails/whatsapp/skype calls etc? Just print off dates of communcations (not the actually conversation). I've saved all our whatsapp conversations (our most common way to keep in touch) and backed them up onto my computer. I'm just not sure how to put it together as evidence.

If you (or anyone else) has some advice it would be appreciated thanks


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Absolutely, the stress of all this is immense! In terms I registering our relationship, we have lived in Melbourne for 15 months (well my partner was born and raised there!) and we have travelled to darwin over the past 3 months because we wanted to see australia together! From what I can see from the form to register our relationship we can provide paperwork to show we usually live in Melbourne. I would love to seek professional advice and probably will, but to save on costly migration agent fees I'm just tryin to get as much info as possible before making an appointment!


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Quick question on this kinda line....how would you show emails/whatsapp/skype calls etc? Just print off dates of communcations (not the actually conversation). I've saved all our whatsapp conversations (our most common way to keep in touch) and backed them up onto my computer. I'm just not sure how to put it together as evidence.

If you (or anyone else) has some advice it would be appreciated thanks
We extracted ours into word/excel and just took out important convos and submitted that. They don't want entire logs

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We extracted ours into word/excel and just took out important convos and submitted that. They don't want entire logs
So ideally if I can find the conversation where we talked of marriage etc that would help?

Most of our emails were generally nonsense but I've kept them just to show dates we were in contact.

I've also back up MSN convo's too as that's what we used when we first started dating.

I know they don't want too much info but I'm always wary I'll not put enough in or too much and they won't read it!


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