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Old 10-28-2010, 03:45 AM
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Question Friend and I are planning to move to Australia!

Hi there, I'm planning to move to Australia with a friend at the end of our school year (late June to August type time frame). Were from Vancouver, Canada and we discovered that we both had a fascination with Australia's wildlife, culture, and climate for a long time now.

I was wondering if others could share their experience about moving to Australia from another country or perhaps just provide some older wisdom since we are both quite young. We are undecided if we should visit first or just go for it if we can secure a job from Canada prior to leaving.

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We are both in the final year of a Network Systems Administrator course, have acquired our CCNA certificate, and are planning to acquire either a MCTS for Active Directory or Exchange server 2007.

Having done our research we've found that there are only 2 real job hubs for IT which are Melbourne and Sydney. If anyone has any other opinions on that matter we'd love to hear it.

To get there we think the visa type that is applicable to us is the Independent Migrant Visa 175 or the Sponsored Migrant Visa 176. There's a lot to go through on this site so were not 100% sure, and were unfamiliar with the sponsoring procedure (will all employers sponsor us? How fast? etc..).

I'll reply fairly often, British columbia is 6 hours ahead (or 18 hours behind, whichever way you wanna look at it) so I'll be asleep at around 3pm Melbourne time and on computer at 12am.

Thanks everyone.

ps. I did a search before but couldn't find the exact same information I was looking for.


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Hi there, I'm a first time poster long time lurker of reddit who is planning to move to Australia with a friend at the end of our school year (late June to August type time frame). Were from Vancouver, Canada and we discovered that we both had a fascination with Australia's wildlife, culture, and climate for a long time now.

I was wondering if others could share their experience about moving to Australia from another country or perhaps just provide some older wisdom since we are both quite young. We are undecided if we should visit first or just go for it if we can secure a job from Canada prior to leaving.

A little more detail:

We are both in the final year of a Network Systems Administrator course, have acquired our CCNA certificate, and are planning to acquire either a MCTS for Active Directory or Exchange server 2007.

Having done our research we've found that there are only 2 real job hubs for IT which are Melbourne and Sydney. If anyone has any other opinions on that matter we'd love to hear it.

To get there we think the visa type that is applicable to us is the Independent Migrant Visa 175 or the Sponsored Migrant Visa 176. There's a lot to go through on this site so were not 100% sure, and were unfamiliar with the sponsoring procedure (will all employers sponsor us? How fast? etc..).

I'll reply fairly often, British columbia is 6 hours ahead (or 18 hours behind, whichever way you wanna look at it) so I'll be asleep at around 3pm Melbourne time and on computer at 12am.

Thanks everyone.

ps. I did a search before but couldn't find the exact same information I was looking for.
Hi cp_19,

I am a canadian in OZ on a working holiday visa. this visa is 12 months, with a possible further 12 months if you do regional work for 3 months, meaning picking bananas etc. This visa allows you to work with one employer for a maximum of 6 months. I have had 2 offers for sponsorship, but because I do not have a diploma or degree, have not been able to explore these further. Visit the VETASSES website and see if you can get your qualifications assessed to determine whether or not you are currently eligible for sponsorship.

As for Sydney & Melbourne being the only places that offer IT roles, this is not necessarily true. I live in North Queensland and we have plenty of IT opportunities, as well as being in regional australia and on the east coast touism line, sydney to cairns.. In my opinion, there is lots of work in australia and is relatively easy to get with persistance.

My advice, determine why you want to come to australia and do some homework on where you can do what you are looking to do. The working holiday visa is, in my opinion, the quickest and cheapest visa. Mine cost about $200CAD and was approved in 30 minutes at midnight in australia online while sitting in taiwan's international airport!

You can grab some cheap one way flights through China Airlines or V Australia. I looked for work for 2 weeks and had 6 offers from places that utilised my skill sets, no waitressing etc.. If you're just looking at travelling around OZ and making some money to do so, go for this visa.

Best of luck to you both. OZ is a beautiful country, the people are lovely and very welcoming, but coming at this time of the year is a massive climate change from the colours of Vancouver. I am as well from Vancouver


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First off, the 176 sponsored visa is not an employer sponsored one and is either state sponsored, they likely to be mostly part of a State Migration Plan with various states/territories and more details on those hopefully announced next month.

The other thing you need to be aware of is that for independent skilled visas, they being the 175 or 176 you also need as a basic eligibility requirement at least a years experience within the past two, so if you are going to be fresh grads that will count you out.
There are also employer sponsored visas but most employers would look for people to have experience before sponsoring and IT generally is a very competitive field with many local and international students graduating here continuously and also many experienced people from overseas applying for visas with IT occupations, thus chances of getting an employer sponsorship from abroad with minimal experience are very very remote.

What I would suggest you both ought to give some thought to is using the WHV provision and in doing some regional seasonal work for a total of three months within the the first year you can then be eligible for a second WHV.
All up, with two years in Australia, you will have a chance of seeking some work in your field, up to six months at a time with the one employer and perhaps that could lead to sponsorship.
Working Holiday Visa (Subclass 417)
Employer Sponsored Workers - Workers - Visas & Immigration

Arriving in July/august is a good time to head north of Brisbane for a milder winter and quite a lot of strawberry farms around the Sunshine Coast and more fruit/vegetables up around Bundaberg and further north towards Cairns for that time of year and also a great time to head that way for sights such as Great Barrier Reef, Whale Watching, Fraser Island and Whitsundays etc. as well as a trip inland if time/money permitted.

You find plenty of younger people use the WHV to come to Australia and Harvest Trail - Harvest jobs - Australian JobSearch is a site that will give you info on where work can generally be looked for at different times.
After getting your three months up and best to get it out of the way sooner than later, you could plan on heading south for either Sydney or Melbourne to seek work in your field and in going to stay at youth hostels initially, you will find plenty of info re agencies and even occasionally jobs advertised on hostel notice boards.

Be it Sydney or Melbourne, do try and establish yourself in the one place for at least six months, join the local library, free & free internet and any sporting clubs of interest etc. as in doing that you will be able to qualify as a resident for taxation purposes and that will mean a saving to you of possibly $4000 - 5000 in taxation on say an income of $30,000 p.a or more, all that money in your pocket [ or bank account ] rather than you not having it.
You can look at taxation details on Australian Taxation Office Homepage

If you plan on doing Sydney and heading that way prior to Xmas/NY you ought to make some potential accommodation bookings as soon as you arrive in Australia for Sydney is where just about every backpacker in Australia may be planning on heading then along with heaps of Aussies and accommodation gets booked very quick.
BUG - the Backpackers' Ultimate guide to budget travel in Australia is a reasonable guide to hostels and Alfred Park in Sydney is good value or if you want to pay a bit more for that week, YHA Australia Hostels - YHA Australia have a hostel in the Rocks area and also their hostel at Pittwater which you have to use a ferry to get to is superb.
The Katoomba hostel in the Blue Mountains is also well regarded and plenty of walking trails about and possibility for spotting wildlife.
After a hostel or as an alternative and perhaps to help you find work in Sydney, Sleeping With The Enemy may be worthwhile having a look at but I'd suspect with them you need to be also booking ahead and be available to take up vacancies.

Sydney is usually slightly warmer than Melbourne whereas Melbourne has something more of a cafes and pubs culture but both can be enjoyable and you may want to set yourself in one for a period of six months for that taxation advantage, and then with that second WHV already set up do a bit more travelling before heading to the other for at least six months in the second year, again for taxation advantage, our tax years running from July to June and so that suits the July/August arrival too.

If you have a look in the travel section and scroll back a few pages and more you will find quite a few general travel threads with plenty of travelling info/tips/links etc.





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