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Old 04-04-2014, 09:39 PM
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Partner Visa - Questions :)

Hello Members of Forum.
After reading tons of information on this site, it has provided me a lot of information how I should put together my documents for our Partner Visa. However there are some question in regarding to this, I am currently confuse about.

English isn’t my 1st nor 2nd language, I will do my best to write this as accurate as possible.

Background information
• We both are similar in age only couple months different, she being 26, me 25
• Malaysian born Australian – Myself
• Thai – My partner
• Meet the lover of my life, back in July 2013
• She’s currently studying at Australia Griffith GELI program in order to gain entry to her Master Degree.

We are currently engaged, however we planned to register our relationship through court as marriage couple in few week time, due to background culture with living together before marriage is bad and I aware my culture similar to her as well, however being born and live here most of my life, I adapted the Aussie culture where tradition isn’t something I follow that strictly till now. Therefore when we meet with her family side back in Thailand, since we both were committed to each other and aware of each other understanding we were happy to be register our relationship as marriage couple. So I proposed my commitment to my partner’s family that I would certify this legally with marriage certificate first, and in future in about 1 – 2 years from now, once we saved enough money, we will have a Thai culture wedding back at her home. In order for us to continue living together as how we are today.

There is two type of partner visa, de facto relationship and marriage/spouse visa or something, we seeks for migration agent a month ago, and was advice that there is no need to register our relationship since we will be registering our relationship through our local court house as marriage couple. Problem is, we don’t want to make this situation looks awkwardly, will just confuse with applying for partner visa, even though have not decided on our wedding ceremonies yet in Thailand maybe another year or more. Would this still be consider as Partner Visa Subclass 820? Or PMV Visa? I am just really lost with this, since I never ever deal with this before and never thought this is so stressful just to provide evidence of our love to someone or in public.

I also have read something in regarding to being a “high-risk” country, it might affect your visa application or something? Or like lower your chances of success? I am not in rush of submitting anything yet just mostly like to have all the questions answer and putting documents ready and start gathering putting all the evidences together, since my partner is here for study, she still have a year to stay so no rush


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What the migration agent meant it registered through the courts is when you have a registry office marriage so if you are married no need to register the relationship. He could have gotten confused.

If you don't get married you have 2 options 820 based on de facto (not marriage) where you need to live together for 12 months (and proof) or register the relationship which waives the 12 months.

The other option is pmv but it is an offshore application.


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Oh I see. Well because I think what happen was, we mention to her should we register our relationship with the govt. which you can do in our state. Even though I'm going to put in a application for intend to marry my partner. She explained to us, register your relationship can be for same sex or people who cant get marry legally, or others who rather just be in de facto and require document or commitment to show for legal paper reason.


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oh alright, well i understand, so even without a wedding event just registering as marriage couple through the court for commitment towards each other and both our parents, still consider as Partner Visa Onshore 820? should i explain this case to the CO when i submit our case?


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When you day wedding event and registering through court are you talking a marriage at the registery office vs a big huge wedding? If you are talking about a registry office wedding you need to supply the marriage certificate as by law you are married.

You can get both parents to supply statements about the relationship. You will also need to make sure you have 2 x 888's from an Australian citizen or permanent resident but others that are not Australian will also help .


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Wedding event as in the big one however that will be happening in a year or 2, depending on how much we save first. Registration as in register office with marriage certificate so technically we pretty much husband and wife once we register just without the ceremonies with others first.

Thanks Mish for the advice, we have quite a lot of support from both side of family's and friends and co-workers. is there a limit lets say for example..if i submitted 7 x copies in ( 2 - 3 are Australia Citizen, few are PR, 2 from Business owner who knows us and our relationship, Parents from both side, and her parents which are in Thailand only handwritten a statement and have their local immigration department stamp of approval as witness and have our Australia Naati to translate that document) so what you reckon?

Also another question my partner is concern with is with her studies, currently her student visa is expiring on march 2015. When its a good time to lodge in this partner visa?

March 2015, will only be the end of Semester 1 in her master. Since we are applying this, her agent who looked after her advice us not to renew her student visa until this partner visa is granted so than she can continue finishing her Master degree in semester 2. Correct?


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Whether you have a large wedding or a small wedding at the registry office, it's still called "getting married". You will be a legally married couple after this.

I think you're getting confused because you've seen people talking about "registering their relationship". That is a completely different thing and does not involve marriage.

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There is no technically as officially you will be (or are) married.

In regards to the statement they can be witnessed by someone at the embassy. If you lodge online they can just colour scan them if by post then they need to send them to you. Some embassy's don't require them to be witnessed but since you are applying onshore better to be safe than sorry.

In regards to applying you can apply when you have enough evidence but before her student visa expires. When you apply she will be granted a BVA but will not come in to effect until the student visa expires. When it comes into effect she will have unlimited work rights and can study too. You just can't leave the country on a BVA you will need to apply for a BVB.

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Crolladx, when you get married there is no need for any formal ceremony as such, the minimum requirement is that you need to complete a Notice of Intended Marriage form (NOIM) and lodge it with the celebrant, minister or registrar who will perform the marriage. You must lodge the NOIM at least one month before your chosen wedding date, but no more than 18 months before. -

After the one month is up you can go to the registry with two witnesses and get married. Which involves saying some simple vows and signing paperwork.

Once this is done you will be legally married, no need for any ceremony if you don't wish.

Then when you are ready and have saved enough money you can go to Thailand and do the traditional ceremony.

When you apply for the visa just explain this is what you are doing and there shouldn't be any issues as saving for the ceremony and Sid Sod are pretty normal practices in Thailand.

In regards to the statements from your partners parents in Thailand, there isn't a requirement that they be witnessed, but it wouldn't hurt. They can get them witnessed at the local Amphur (local government office).

As to the number of statements, there is a minimum of 2 I believe required from Australian citizen/residence, but no maximum. But the the number you have listed is a good amount.

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Thank you members of forum for your input

This has cleared up a lot of things in my head as how we should present our documents. Im just worry thats all, seeing a lot of members here submitting their application without migration agent and have success as long you go through the checklist of what their require from you. Guess the only pain part would be gathering all these receipt of everything and receipt tends to fade after few months (which need to scan and photograph for back up) which just drives me crazy since we decided to submit our application in person (im not sure if you can do that, or not..since i see some who say you can some said only by POST) so guess ill keep update as time progress through and have you members double check for us.

Once again, Thank you


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