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Luthien1980 11-16-2010 05:50 PM

Some help with PMV subclass 300
Hello everyone.
I am Greek and I recently applied for a PMV. My fiance is an Australian Citizen. We've been in a relationship for 5 months from which we spent only half together. The reason we applied for that visa is because we both want to be together and if things continue to be as good as they are get married .
The problem is that I am freaking out about the stuff we sent to the embassy. Greece applies to Berlin.
Apart from the forms they request on the site (applications, police clearance, med exams, etc) we had to provide relationship evidence. We sent the following:
-2 letters (one from each of us) stating how we met, times spend together and apart
- Boarding passes from trips we took together
- Photos of us
- printouts from email inbox
- Complete records of our phone bills showing txting and phone calls

We also provided a letter from his Bishop stating that we lodged a NOIM with him and a date for the wedding.

All I want to know is, are all these things enough to convince the CO that we have a relationship and that we want to get married?? Especially gives the short period of time we actually have a relationship.

Any help will be highly appreciated.

Thank you.

enigma 11-16-2010 10:30 PM

Hello Luthien1980,

I also applied for PMV 300 but at Australian Embassy in Vienna 3 months ago and Iīm hoping that my documentation would be enough to demonstrate that mine relationship with my fiance is geniue and outgoing(we know each other for ages but our love story started in 2009) and if would be relief for you I send them a lot less then you are:eek:(I didnīt have my emails or msn chats only phone bills and letters from each other and his parents and statutory declarations from friends) cause I didnīt pay atention before:(...but as I can see you well prepared your application so I think that 5 months of your relationship would not be a problem :)...if something means to you I know where you are standing and hope that all goes well for you and you get your visa soon :D

Wanderer 11-17-2010 12:17 AM

Whirlwind romances do occur Luthien and though there is no set time for them, a read of the application section would have mentioned reading Booklet #1 as being appropriate.
In there - , starting P31 you will find
on P32.

• evidence that you and your fiancé(e) genuinely intend to live in a spouse relationship.
The department knows that it is often difficult to provide evidence of your intention in
the future to live with your fiancé(e) in a spouse relationship. The required evidence
depends on the circumstances of each case. If you have evidence that relates to the
financial, household, social context aspects of, and commitment to, your relationship,
you should submit this with your Prospective Marriage visa application (see
pages 40–41 for guidance about similar such requirements for partner visas).
Note: At the very least, you should submit two statements from family and/or friendswho are aware of your intended marriage and can attest to your genuine
intention to live together in an ongoing spouse relationship (for guidance about
these statements, see ‘Statutory Declarations’ on page 27);
So as well as your own statements, other statements should have been supplied.
If you did not, several things could happen:
1. The omission gets overlooked but given relatively short time of the relationship I suspect that is unlikely.
2. You could be asked for further information, perhaps specifically evidence of commitment
3. Hopefully your application is not just refused.

If you have only just submitted the application without other statements, I would follow up your application in the first instance with advice that you have overlooked what may have been expected and are getting statements to send.
You can use a form 1022 to advise them of that situation.

Luthien1980 11-17-2010 05:08 AM

Thank you for your reply. Both me and my fiance read the booklet and followed the step-by-step guide on the site the Berlin office has. As far as the statutory declarations go, I emailed the Embassy before lodging the application and I got a reply saying I should provide those upon my COs' request and not with the initial application. As for any other evidence I forgot to mention that we included a letter (normal mail) from a bank we have a joined account, showing both our names. I guess that's one way to show that we have joined financial plans.
I really hope we are doing this the right way... :(

Wanderer 11-17-2010 09:03 AM

I hope it goes well for you for though some countries may have particular processing arrangements for some visas, there being a more stringent assessment for tourist visas for instance, it does seem an odd approach for an Immi officer to advise of doing something less than providing full evidence with an application.

It is appropriate and normal with offshore applications to do police and medical checks when requested by a CO but I've never seen a post re advice to delay basic evidence, especially when it is stated in black and white in Booklet #1 and I would double check that is what they meant.
There is only one set of Immi regulations and it is strange that Berlin would depart from what is the normal requirement.

Luthien1980 11-17-2010 12:53 PM

to be honest with you I thought it was strange too, and the reason it took us so long to lodge the application after getting engaged was because it we wanted to be sure of what to do. I have all the emails the Berlin office sent to me regarding what we must include in the initial application and what to sent later.

I already got an email from Berlin saying that they received my application, providing me with a MFN and informing me that my app. will be allocated a CO. So I guess so far so good.

Marta 11-24-2010 10:00 PM

Hi Luthien

I have tried to send you private message but i still cant figure out how to do it :cool:

I am Polish and I have applied for Parter Visa to the Embassy in Berlin about the same time as you. My application was received by the embassy on 12 November 2010.

Still did not get CO signed, hopefully will hear from him before end of the week. If not I do not know if I should call the embassy or just patiently wait? What are you planning on doing?

Luthien1980 11-24-2010 10:04 PM

Hello Marta.
Although I have received confirmation about receiving my application and my migration file number I still don't have a CO. I'm gonna wait till the end of the month and I'll email them if they don't assign someone by them. It's getting close to Christmas and I don't know if this has anything to do with it.
If I have any more news I'll let you know.

Wanderer 11-25-2010 05:02 AM

Processing times for visas is becoming rather lengthy at the moment and it will always vary as will the time before a CO is looking at an application.
It is not unusual for it to be several months before a CO may contact an applicant and so best thing is to just remain patient for that may be all you will get from the trouble of attemting to find out, no ammount of calls at all likely to hasten processing.

Marta - forum members need five posts up before PMs facility is activated.

Mimita 11-27-2010 11:18 AM

Hi guys,
I also applied for Partner Visa in Berlin on 13/09,and got 1-st e-mail from
CO on 3/11.Iknow is not easy,bur ll get your CO ,once your case
be allocated;)

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