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31/M US -> Australia (Sydney) Prospective Marriage Visa

So, I'll try to keep this as short and sweet as possible. My girlfriend (now fiance) and I met online roughly 2-3 years ago and have been talking everyday since.

Things have gotten more and more serious. I went to visit/meet her in Sydney last year. That is around the time that we decided that no matter what, we wanted to be together and that we should get married.

I have done A LOT of research on immigration laws and visas that would be available to us. It looks to me like our best bet would be a Prospective Marriage Visa due to the fact that we aren't married yet and we aren't a de facto relationship because we have never lived together.

One of the biggest hurdles we have is age. She is 19 and I'm 31, she still lives and home and I'm autonomous. She is currently attending Uni and I have a full time job (IT Systems Administrator) and I have been saving money for our future. The age gap is only relevant to other people outside of the situation and has never bothered or effected our relationship.

We have gotten most of the documentation together for the PMV application. The PMV is a non-refundable $3000 USD just for the application. The one thing I'm afraid of is that we might not meet some of the requirements like financial support and living requirements due to me being here and her being there and neither of us having a visa.

I've looked into getting a work visa sponsorship but this has turned out to be much harder than I anticipated. Basically, I'm just afraid that we are going to run into a lot of road blocks trying to apply for a visa due to our unique situation.


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Financial support doesnt matter we have seen people on centrelink sponsor their partner.

You just have to be in a genuine relationship and have met in person since turning 18 which you have.

Provide them with alot of evidence and you will be fine. Also I believe they only take into account evidence since you first met.


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Mish,

Thanks for the reply. That makes me feel a lot better about moving forward with the PMV application with some confedence.


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Could anyone expain the path to Permanent Residence from a Prospective Marriage Visa including rough timelines and if you can work on each visa or not. From my understanding, duing the three-stage process you go from:

Prospective Marriage Visa (Subclass 300) > Temporary Partner Visa (Subclass 820) > Permanent Partner Visa (Subclass 801)

I've read that it's hard but possible to get work on temporary visas. How hard would it be to get a full time IT / ICT job?


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Alot depends on when you get married and apply for your 820 as you are eligible for pr 2 years after applying for the 820 and from what I see takes about 3 months to get your pr after your eligible date.

Nobody can tell you how hard or easy it will be to get a job as depends on location and experience etc. Though I have heard that IT jobs are harder to get now compared to how they once were but you could always do IT help desk support.


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Once again, thank you for your response. I suppose my question could have been worded better.

I've seen varying answers but I've heard that you can work on a PMV but the visa isn't looked at very seriously and hard to get a full time job due to the temporary nature of the visa. Which makes me wonder if the 820 is similar.

I'm just wondering if I come over there on a PMV and then a 820, if I'll be without a job due to the temp visa status.


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You will be entitled to work as soon as the PMV is granted. However, there are quite a few employers who want to employ citizens or PR holders only so it can be hard to find work. You may need to be flexible as to what type of work you'll accept, and be able to sell yourself to employers in your field.

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As an employer (not in IT) of a small company, I do/would not have a problem giving a PMV applicant a job. There is a good chance that the person will get the PR once in Australia - it is not a short term visa (work or holiday visa). But I would employ on a casual basis at least until after the marriage, it gives me a good chance to check you suitability for the position (if you are no good I let you go with no notice required) on the other hand you get about 25% more pay for the casual rate.
I think you will only find this in smaller organizations. If you have the ability you could also start your own business and find your own work? You may need your partner to do this due to citizen/business laws (you need to check) then nothing stopping you working for that business. It is fast to set up and not expensive, a full PTY LTD company can be set up for under $1,000.


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You can work on the PMV but employers may not know what the PMV is or understand what it is.

As Maggie said there are employers that only employ PR or Citizens, I know that Australian Government do and some banks do as well, but not sure about state government. It is up to the employer really.

You can look for a job doing anything but then again if they see that you have worked in IT and are applying for a job at Subway/Macca's/Coles/Call Centre etc they may not give you the job because you are over qualified for the job and think that you would leave once you found a job in your field.

Basically, all you can do it try. Nobody knows how you will go as everyone is different. Though I will say that the job market is tough at the moment with Australian government agencies having to get rid of staff.


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If you come over here without expecting to work in your field of expertise you should not have a problem getting a job. I would think this would be the case especially in Sydney.

But I will second that most employers don't understand visas, nor do they care about learning because they have an over abundance of Australian citizens and PR holders to choose from.

My partner had multiple issues getting work. Had lots of experience as a legal assistant, had studied law (to become a lawyer) was told he wouldn't fit a paralegal position on several occasions because he had too much experience - they said because he wanted to become a lawyer he wouldn't stick around for long - regardless of him promising otherwise.
If he managed to by pass that excuse he was told he needed local experience.
If it was none of the above he was told they only hire people with PR or who are citizens.

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