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Old 11-24-2010, 01:03 PM
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Bringing my fiance to Australia

Hi all,
I was just wondering if anyone could advise or confirm that we are going through the correct channels, I'll give my situation below:

I am New Zealand citizen ( not an eligible or permanent resident, as I have only been in Australia for 3 years) my fiance is a Russian citizen who resides in Moscow. We met online in May this year and corresponded on a daily basis, emails, phone calls, letters etc. I visited her in October for 2 weeks, at this time we got engaged. She wants to come to Australia to live and work, and will start with a trip in February 2011 (tourist visa). At that time we plan to marry in Australia ( we'll be honest about that in the visa application, if it asks) I will return for another trip to Russia in May 2011 and after that we want to apply for a 461 sub class visa (Family of NZ citizens). We understand it is only a temp visa for 5 years, but renewable for another 5. By that stage we will have known each other for over a year (although it has not been practical to live with each other for any extended period) we will be husband & wife. My fiance is aware she will need to provide medicals and I will see if she can be added to my health insurance policy.
We think we have covered all bases, if we follow this plan. I have been through the application form several times and cannot see any problems. Sponsorship is not required, we can provide evidence of all our communications and shared expenses during the times we are together.
We just want to be together, here in Australia, my kids are here too (from previous relationship).
Does anyone have any comments, tips, advice, experiences. Thanking you all

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Old 11-25-2010, 04:13 AM
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It seems from eligibility requirements you're on the right track.
New Zealand Citizen Family Relationship (Temporary) Visa (Subclass 461)
Though it is not stipulated that you need to sponsor, sponsor is referred to in the application Checklist - and you ought to use the checklist as a guide to all requirements.
And when the application is made, just provide a good detailed timeline of your relationship and evidence of the ammount of contact you have had to support there being ongoing commitment.
It could for instance be queried why after marriage your wife is returning to Russia and then why you and if that is for a second ceremony with her family, that's great and it ought to be mentioned.
If that is the case have you considered to cut down on the travelling, for you to make another trip to Russia first, get married there and then she can apply for the 461 and make the trip once it is granted.
If she has all the supporting stuff ready, police check, medical, birth and marriage certificates translated etc. she may have the visa processed reasonably promptly.
Alternately she could come after the application on a tourist visa and then for the granting of the 461 she could duck over to NZ, a six months tourist visa would be good to allow plenty of time for the 461 application processing.
Disadvantage of that though is if she has to leave a job, she can not become employed on the tourist visa and I suppose if you get married here it'll be one less translation to be done.
Getting married here you ought to check with a celebrant or minister re what documents they would need when you have to submit a Notice of Intent to Marry and they need to be in at least a month before the intended date.

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Old 11-25-2010, 04:42 AM
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Thanks for your help Wanderer,
Yes, my fiance has work commitments in Moscow until March, she really wants to be able to work here, so the trip in February is so she can see some of WA, where I work and how I live etc (plus of course to get Married!)
She has all her documents already translated, as she lived/studied in the US about 2 years ago, so had them done for that trip.
The Intention to marry form is being mailed to me as we speak, she has completed her half and had her signature witnessed at the Australian Consulate in Moscow, I'll do my half when they arrive and yes they have to be submitted at least 30 days before the ceremony. The process for getting married here is way way simpler than in Russia (like a lot of things)
We are not too concerned at the traveling, I really want to go back and see Russia in the spring/summer, plus advice we have been given is to try and see as much of each other in person before applying for the 461visa, so this is really the only travel!

Just one question, the Police check, if required, is it from the Australian Police? (obviously she would have nothing on record here) or do they require something from her own Country's police force, translated to English?

Other than that I think we have the rest sorted (fingers crossed!)
Thanks again!

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Old 11-25-2010, 04:51 AM
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I think I have just found the answer to my question:

"For the Australian Government to determine whether you are of good character, you may be asked to provide police certificates for each country you have lived in for 12 months or more over the last ten (10) years since turning 16.

If you are applying outside Australia, you do not have to provide this information when you apply. You will be advised when it is required.

If you are applying in Australia, you should provide this information with your application."

Ok, so she may need to get checks from Russia, US and I also believe she lived in Israel for a short period, if they require them, as she will be applying outside of Australia.

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