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Old 12-04-2010, 01:09 AM
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Hello!

Me (from germany) and my partner from australia, currently being in europe want to apply for the 309 or 820 Visa.
Since I used my working holiday visa already we wanted to go to newzealand together, live together and work and share everything.
We have a heap of pictures, I met his parents, he stayed with me at my parents place for a couple month, and he will again before we leave europe hell probably spend christmas here, and I will with his family next year.

So I reckon it sounds good for getting the visa, BUT Ive no clue what visa would be better? apply from outside australia, so from newzealand, or go to australia first and apply from there? does it make any difference?

Is there anything else we should think of?

Thanks a lot:-)


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I didn't think you could live in New Zealand on a temporary partner visa only a permanent resident visa?

Also, even living in New Zealand on a permanent Australia visa has pit-falls. In that your right to live in New Zealand is only valid for as long as your PR visa lasts (normally 5 years).

If you've not been living in Australia for at least two years (or can show some other connection - i.e. property, investments, family) when your PR visa expires you won't be able get a Resident Return Visa either. If this happens you won't have a valid visa for either New Zealand or Australia.

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Hi, Sorry you got me wrong.
I want to end up living in Australia. But the proof for the 12 month visa, thats what I want to get done in Newzealand.
And then after we lived there for a year (with a working holiday visa) we would apply for either a offshore DeFacto visa from Newzealnd or onshore from Australia for Australia. And i was just wondering if there would be any difference.


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ah sorry. :-) I understand now. It doesn't really matter where you apply from as long as you have the 12 months of living together. How long can you stay in New Zealand for? would your visa allow you to hang around whilst DIAC process your defacto?

Personally, I'd think about opening a joint account asap and have your wills don e (if you haven't already) - as both are considered stronger evidence of your relationship than photos.

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We wont go to newzealand before August or so.
I have to save up, my Partner is currently saving up. So I think we wont open a joint account before we go to newzealand.
I just thought of that if we apply from Australia we would have another couple of month to proof everything. So have another joint account there and everything.

Its still a looong time to fo, but there is no chance we could leave earlier.


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Okay, how about having friends send you Christmas cards (addressed to both of you)? The postage stamp on the envelope should have the date of postage - which is good evidence (and cheap!)

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Are you considering getting a WHV for NZ because if you did that and the Aussie guy went and lived with you in NZ and then on completion of the 12 months WHV you got an ETA for Australia, that would get you over the 12 months requirement and you could apply from in Australia.
If the time you have already known oneanother has meant staying with oneanother a month or so here and then there etc., that time is not really going to count, especially if there will be another gap before you head to NZ.
When in NZ you ought to get a lease together or if you just intend on travelling around, for sure get a joint bank account and have statements from your parents expressing their knowledge of your relationship and in particular of how you will whilst travelling be doing so as a couple and any corrspondence from them to you should be to both of you.
It would be easier to present a case if you did settle in one place and join some community clubs etc.





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hi!
thanks for you replies. ni we dint want to travel, we will settle down and get a flat (hopefully) and all that.

if there are any more tips, feel free to post them (and dont worry I read through the whole froum)


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Have a good read of the Immi site eligibility section, especially the CAQ on the 12 months relationship and Booklet #1.
I made a sticky thread of elkitten posting in depth on her experience and has plenty of tips.
It is certainly a good approach to be planning in advance as a lot of people do not do that and then create difficulties in meeting the eligibility requirements.





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