Help: after waiting 12 months spouse visa refused - Page 4

Go Back   Living and Working in Australia Forum With Immigration and Travel Information > Living in Australia > Visas and immigration

Visas and immigration The Australia Forum for visas, immigration and migration to Australia. Please use this section to discuss all your immigration and moving to Australia needs. Discuss visa types, time lines, submission dates, police checks and read our members' immigration success stories here.

Like Tree46Likes

Help: after waiting 12 months spouse visa refused - Page 4


Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #31 (permalink)  
Old 05-07-2014, 07:09 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 75
Users Flag! From australia

26 likes received
3 likes given
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mish View Post
Out of curiosity sake, how many social photos did you provide? There are people on the forum that have said to only provide 8-12 and IMO that is not enough, so I am just curious to how many you provided.

Are you saying culturally you are not allowed to photograph women in general or just a weddings? Is that just a Pakistan thing?
Born and bread in Pakistan until I moved to Australia (for good) at a very mature age. Some facts:

1. There is a race (Pathan) are generally people who belong to Northern province of Pakistan named "Peshawar". They have spread all across Pakistan. Good people but some do have strict beliefs. One of their belief is that they are known to have very strict rules about photographs especially for women.

I should mention that not every Pakistani is like that. For instance, ME on other the other hand had zillions of photos taken at the wedding, before the wedding and after the wedding and I even posted them on facebook and feel proud to share those moments with friends and those who couldn't attend the wedding.

Some people say it's against the religion; some say only women can't be photographed while others like me believe, it's memories, some very very precious memories. I tend to read books on religion and do not agree with people who say it's against the religion. There is no evidence of that in either the Holy book or hadiths.

Hope that'll give you some idea about it.
__________________

-----> Subclass 309 <-----
22 Feb 2014 Applied Online (HR)
21 May 2014 CO Assigned - Docs Requested
15-Jun-2014 Med, PCC & Bio-metric Submitted
22-Sep-2014 Phone Interview with applicant & form 888 guarantor
10-Oct-2014 Three Statutory Declaration Submitted
18-Oct-2014 Visa Granted
Total Journey - 7 months and 26 days



Last edited by boycot123; 05-07-2014 at 07:17 AM.

  #32 (permalink)  
Old 05-07-2014, 07:15 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 75
Users Flag! From australia

26 likes received
3 likes given
I made a collage of photos. Wedding, Social and fun day out. That reduces the size and number of documents as quite a few of them fit in 5MB file size as pdf. I didn't count them but I think I've provided them with at least 65 of different events.

__________________

-----> Subclass 309 <-----
22 Feb 2014 Applied Online (HR)
21 May 2014 CO Assigned - Docs Requested
15-Jun-2014 Med, PCC & Bio-metric Submitted
22-Sep-2014 Phone Interview with applicant & form 888 guarantor
10-Oct-2014 Three Statutory Declaration Submitted
18-Oct-2014 Visa Granted
Total Journey - 7 months and 26 days



  #33 (permalink)  
Old 05-07-2014, 07:19 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 6,984
Users Flag! From australia

1454 likes received
403 likes given
In reply to Mish and of subject - hope a Mod will think about it?

A sticky for ancillary docs. The be a guide for others depending on the trends of time and individual embassy. Just list the number of pages sent.

Date lodged
Embassy name
Photos
emails
postal items
phone records
# Applicant stat decs
# sponsor state decs

Just a thought - delete any time.

Mish and Dinkum like this.

Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #34 (permalink)  
Old 05-07-2014, 08:03 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 107
Users Flag! From australia

31 likes received
80 likes given
Thanks for that tip AMPK. I have an appointment with the local member of parliament tomorrow and will see what she says.

__________________

Made by our Australia Immigration Timeline Software. Click here to create yours.

  #35 (permalink)  
Old 05-07-2014, 08:09 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 107
Users Flag! From australia

31 likes received
80 likes given
Yes, it is true Mish. No photographs of women allowed. I spent 9 months total in a Pathan village. Photos of children (boys and girls) are okay, and photos of men are okay. When a plumber or a doctor arrived to the family home, we women were locked in a room. I was with mother and all sisters in the room. Of course, I got out the window, turned around and there was a pop-eyed plumber. I quickly went back into the room and closed the window. It is all about religion and respect to Allah.

__________________

Made by our Australia Immigration Timeline Software. Click here to create yours.

  #36 (permalink)  
Old 05-07-2014, 09:53 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 75
Users Flag! From australia

26 likes received
3 likes given
Quote:
Originally Posted by pollygoh2002 View Post
It is all about religion and respect to Allah.
Polly, stop misrepresenting the religion and Pakistani people.

One of the most misunderstood areas in Islam is that of the position of women in the religion. The general perception in the West is that Muslim women are subjugated and almost seen as property. While not all Muslims deal with women as inferior, this is unfortunately true in some segments of the Muslim world and this treatment is supposedly justified by the religion. However, when we look at the basis of the religion, the Quran, we see a very different picture. In the Quran God makes it very clear that men and women are equal.

When I talk, I have evidence of Quran and I quote here with reference:

[3:195]I never fail to reward any worker among you for any work you do, be you male or female - you are equal to one another.

I strongly disagree with you because you're giving the false impression of the true picture of ISLAM. It's just unfortunate that you believe in Quran yet you are so ignorant of what it says.

Another thing that bugs me about people is the fact that they read the Quran but not understand it. It just defies the logic. How can you just read it but not understand it? It's like saying .... I can read English but not understand it?

As Albert Einstein said: "Any fool can know. The point is to understand." Unfortunately, it's true in this case too. Just remember, all our knowledge begins with the senses, proceeds then to the understanding, and ends with reason. There is nothing higher than reason.

I've given my reasoning, do you have yours to support your claim "It's all about religion and Respect to Allah"?

Amandy likes this.
__________________

-----> Subclass 309 <-----
22 Feb 2014 Applied Online (HR)
21 May 2014 CO Assigned - Docs Requested
15-Jun-2014 Med, PCC & Bio-metric Submitted
22-Sep-2014 Phone Interview with applicant & form 888 guarantor
10-Oct-2014 Three Statutory Declaration Submitted
18-Oct-2014 Visa Granted
Total Journey - 7 months and 26 days



Last edited by boycot123; 05-07-2014 at 09:57 AM.

  #37 (permalink)  
Old 05-07-2014, 10:10 AM
CollegeGirl's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 9,033
Users Flag! From usa

4424 likes received
6268 likes given
Okay... can we not get into a religious discussion here? I understand your desire to correct any misconceptions, boycot, but now that you've said your piece can we get back on topic and talk about immigration issues? Thanks.

Star Hunter and Dinkum like this.
__________________
Original Nationality: US
Visa #1: PMV (300) through Washington, D.C
Applied: April 2013.
Visa Granted: January 2014.
Visa #2: Subclass 820 (From PMV).
Applied: End of April 2014.
Visa Granted: Early July 2014.
Visa #3: 801 (PR)
Eligibility Date: End of April 2016 (Applied a month prior).
PR Granted: Early April 2017.

  #38 (permalink)  
Old 05-07-2014, 10:26 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 107
Users Flag! From australia

31 likes received
80 likes given
I'm sorry I gave the wrong impression and misrepresented the religion and the Pakistani people. I had no such intention. I don't believe Muslim women are subjugated and almost seen as property. I have been a revert for a short time and still have a lot to learn.

__________________

Made by our Australia Immigration Timeline Software. Click here to create yours.

  #39 (permalink)  
Old 05-07-2014, 10:34 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 75
Users Flag! From australia

26 likes received
3 likes given
Smile

Quote:
Originally Posted by pollygoh2002 View Post
I'm sorry I gave the wrong impression and misrepresented the religion and the Pakistani people. I had no such intention. I don't believe Muslim women are subjugated and almost seen as property. I have been a revert for a short time and still have a lot to learn.
Legend ..... so happy to see it was just a misunderstanding. I just couldn't help myself but clear the misrepresentation. Anyway, I'm glad that air is cleared now

Either way, do let me know of your case progress. I'll be anxiously waiting to hear from you.

pollygoh2002 likes this.
__________________

-----> Subclass 309 <-----
22 Feb 2014 Applied Online (HR)
21 May 2014 CO Assigned - Docs Requested
15-Jun-2014 Med, PCC & Bio-metric Submitted
22-Sep-2014 Phone Interview with applicant & form 888 guarantor
10-Oct-2014 Three Statutory Declaration Submitted
18-Oct-2014 Visa Granted
Total Journey - 7 months and 26 days



  #40 (permalink)  
Old 05-07-2014, 10:37 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 107
Users Flag! From australia

31 likes received
80 likes given
Thanks boycot, will keep you posted.

boycot123 likes this.

__________________

Made by our Australia Immigration Timeline Software. Click here to create yours.

Closed Thread

Tags
309, pakistan, visa 309

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Visa Vistor 600 Refused after 3 months jaffaop Visas and immigration 22 03-08-2014 08:16 AM
12 months refused evernow1 Travel questions 2 10-14-2013 01:43 PM
7 months together, refused 2nd WHV, 22 days left, what to do? Tara Visas and immigration 1 04-23-2013 07:19 AM
Anyone waiting longer than 13 months for offshore spouse visa? someuser Visas and immigration 16 03-25-2013 03:31 AM
Still waiting on visa 9 months later mortoau Visas and immigration 21 04-05-2012 04:32 PM

LEGAL NOTICE
By using this Website, you agree to abide by our Terms and Conditions (the "Terms"). This notice does not replace our Terms, which you must read in full as they contain important information. You must not post any defamatory, unlawful or undesirable content, or any content copied from a third party, on the Website. You must not copy material from the Website except in accordance with the Terms. This Website gives users an opportunity to share information only and is not intended to contain any advice which you should rely upon. It does not replace the need to take professional or other advice. We have no liability to you or any other person in respect of any content on this Website.


All times are GMT. The time now is 11:54 PM.




Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
AustraliaForum.com