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Dear all
I am a 66 years old Australian citizen, I sponsored my son and his family (Wife and child ) who lives in Iran under the XB-202 Global Special Humanitarian visa almost 2 years ago on 28/07/2008.
On 08/10/08 I received a call from the immigration, asking me couple of questions such as “would you pay for you sons ticket to come to Australia, would you provide accommodations to him and...” Next day I received an official letter saying “ Your application has been transferred to the Australian embassy in Tehran, Iran for further consideration. The final decision will be made at the Australian Embassy in Tehran, Iran”
My Son and his family were interviewed by the Australian Embassy in Tehran, Iran on 06/04/2009.The interview was successful and they were asked to do the Health check consequently and after reviewing the results, they were sent to the IOM and undertook the orientation course.
I assumed everything is okay and he will join me shortly. Unfortunately, the waiting time is incredibly long and we haven’t heard anything from the embassy nor from the Immigration offices in Australia.I approached everybody I could in Australia, like the Immigration Office, MPs Community organisations and many more, but no clear answer is given to me.The Immigration office in Australia recommended if you want to follow up the case progress, it would be more beneficial to talk with the authorities in the Australian Embassy in Tehran Iran.
Even though with my poor health condition I travelled to Iran. The case officer in embassy said “we had escalated your application to the relevant authorities, this often includes requirements for health, character and national security checks that are undertaken in Australia and can take some time, unfortunately, we are unable to provide you with a definitive timeframe for finalisation of these checks.”
Its mentionable that my son and his family undertook another health check as the validity of previous health check was expired.
Now I am back in Australia, my health condition is deteriorating, and as a mother I am wondering what would happen to this case and what should I do??? I appreciate your cooperation in guiding me.
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Fatema


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Old 01-02-2011, 01:34 AM
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I can not say for sure Fatema but I would think that unfortunately the visa for your son and his family has in some way been affected by by the significant increase in past couple of years of arrival of asylum seekers using people smuggling activities.

You may have heard the term of queue jumping used and even the former Immigration Minister Senator Chris Evans denied a queue existed and that was the biggest Lie any politician could make for the Australian Humanitarian Program does have specific numbers allowed in any one year, about 13,750 + a special further 500.

The way the program would normally work is:
. 6000 people are selected each year from about 50,000 annual applicants in refugee centres, those people directly sponsored by the government for resettlement.
. the other 7,750 available places are normally for people to be sponsored by organisations and individuals such as you are attempting to do yourself where all costs and sponsorship are to be met by the sponsors.

What the government does not want to declare openly is that for every person arriving via people smuggling, that is one less place available for people to be sponsored and yet that information is shown very clearly in the table @ Australian Immigration Fact Sheet 60 – Australia's Refugee and Humanitarian Program where you will see that as onshore humanitarian visas rise the offshore ones drop as 7750 is the total number.
That is in effect the queue that people smugglers are helping those using them to jump.
It seems the + 500 I mentioned are being shown in the numbers as refugees and that was a number the government decided upon in the hope that it would help stop people smuggling.
Some would think it is more of an enticement for people to get to Indonesia to use people smugglers.
You will also see that there are no Iranians shown in 2009–10 offshore visa grants by top ten countries of birth and that is possibly because of two reasons, one being that not too many Iranians may be considered in the first place because of political reasons and that does not just mean that the Australian government is going to be suspicious of Iranians but also that the processing of an application, all the checks etc. would need to be done most discreetly for though I do not know, I would suspect that the Iranian politicians/bureaucrats would not look too well upon their citizens seeking a humanitarian sponsorship.
Secondly, if there have been Iranians using people smugglers and it is reported there have been, then it is possible that would reduce any number that has been allocated for Iranians.

It is also unfortunate that someone within the immigration department persuaded you to make a trip to Iran when they should be able to get a report on the situation and explain what is happening re the figures.
I can understand that many people may want to get out of countries for various reasons but if our government continues to support people taking the wrong approach, that can only ultimately lead to a disintegration of law and order as applied to our borders and the longer suffering of those prepared to subject themselves to a lawful approach.
That the CO in Tehran has said
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unfortunately, we are unable to provide you with a definitive timeframe for finalisation of these checks.”
to me indicates that they may have been advised of something along the lines of " while there is people smuggling going on, othr processing will cease ".

I do not know how much other contact will help but there is within the Immigration department the Global Feedback Unit - Contact Us – Compliments and Complaints – Department of Immigration and Citizenship and I think if you made out a letter with the details of your case for sponsorship using the Immi data references and mention Immi having sent you on a needless trip, that is where you should start.

I was going to suggest you may not get too meaningful a reply but also mention how you will if need be also be seeking a response from several ministers including the PM to their claims of no queue and reasoning to allow special treatment of those using or intending to use people smugglers whilst disadvantaging those prepared to accept the lawful process.

Once you have a response from the GFU you may want to put at the top of your list of ministers to contact:
. Current Immigration Minister Chris Bowen
. Previous Immigration Minister Chris Evans [ he head of the government in the Senate ] and it may not be too great a co-incident that it was not long after Evans appeared on the ABC Q&A program refuting the queue, that there were the additional 500 places provided for Iraqis in Indonesia,[ I think there also having been a video of an Iraqi family in Iraq shown] but who is to say there are not other nationalities there because of the people smuggling carrot.
. The PM
It'll also not hurt to keep the opposition MPs appraised of the situation as well, Tony Abbott and Scott Robinson as well as the Opposition leader in the Senate.

You'll find all the details for contacting MPs @ Parliament of Australia: House of Representatives under Members for either the HofR or the Senate.

Ultimately, it may be the media you need to turn to and whereas the plight of the Asylum Seekers and their use of the people smugglers gets much air-time, unfortunately the plight of those waiting does not and it will be the case of finding the appropriate media people prepared to tell the rest of the story, your chapter being part of it.





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I can not say for sure Fatema but I would think that unfortunately the visa for your son and his family has in some way been affected by by the significant increase in past couple of years of arrival of asylum seekers using people smuggling activities.

You may have heard the term of queue jumping used and even the former Immigration Minister Senator Chris Evans denied a queue existed and that was the biggest Lie any politician could make for the Australian Humanitarian Program does have specific numbers allowed in any one year, about 13,750 + a special further 500.

The way the program would normally work is:
. 6000 people are selected each year from about 50,000 annual applicants in refugee centres, those people directly sponsored by the government for resettlement.
. the other 7,750 available places are normally for people to be sponsored by organisations and individuals such as you are attempting to do yourself where all costs and sponsorship are to be met by the sponsors.

What the government does not want to declare openly is that for every person arriving via people smuggling, that is one less place available for people to be sponsored and yet that information is shown very clearly in the table Australian Immigration Fact Sheet 60 – Australia's Refugee and Humanitarian Program[/url] where you will see that as onshore humanitarian visas rise the offshore ones drop as 7750 is the total number.
That is in effect the queue that people smugglers are helping those using them to jump.
It seems the + 500 I mentioned are being shown in the numbers as refugees and that was a number the government decided upon in the hope that it would help stop people smuggling.
Some would think it is more of an enticement for people to get to Indonesia to use people smugglers.
You will also see that there are no Iranians shown in 2009–10 offshore visa grants by top ten countries of birth and that is possibly because of two reasons, one being that not too many Iranians may be considered in the first place because of political reasons and that does not just mean that the Australian government is going to be suspicious of Iranians but also that the processing of an application, all the checks etc. would need to be done most discreetly for though I do not know, I would suspect that the Iranian politicians/bureaucrats would not look too well upon their citizens seeking a humanitarian sponsorship.
Secondly, if there have been Iranians using people smugglers and it is reported there have been, then it is possible that would reduce any number that has been allocated for Iranians.

It is also unfortunate that someone within the immigration department persuaded you to make a trip to Iran when they should be able to get a report on the situation and explain what is happening re the figures.
I can understand that many people may want to get out of countries for various reasons but if our government continues to support people taking the wrong approach, that can only ultimately lead to a disintegration of law and order as applied to our borders and the longer suffering of those prepared to subject themselves to a lawful approach.
That the CO in Tehran has said to me indicates that they may have been advised of something along the lines of " while there is people smuggling going on, othr processing will cease ".

I do not know how much other contact will help but there is within the Immigration department the Global Feedback Unit - Contact Us – Compliments and Complaints – Department of Immigration and Citizenship[/url] and I think if you made out a letter with the details of your case for sponsorship using the Immi data references and mention Immi having sent you on a needless trip, that is where you should start.

I was going to suggest you may not get too meaningful a reply but also mention how you will if need be also be seeking a response from several ministers including the PM to their claims of no queue and reasoning to allow special treatment of those using or intending to use people smugglers whilst disadvantaging those prepared to accept the lawful process.

Once you have a response from the GFU you may want to put at the top of your list of ministers to contact:
. Current Immigration Minister Chris Bowen
. Previous Immigration Minister Chris Evans [ he head of the government in the Senate ] and it may not be too great a co-incident that it was not long after Evans appeared on the ABC Q&A program refuting the queue, that there were the additional 500 places provided for Iraqis in Indonesia,[ I think there also having been a video of an Iraqi family in Iraq shown] but who is to say there are not other nationalities there because of the people smuggling carrot.
. The PM
It'll also not hurt to keep the opposition MPs appraised of the situation as well, Tony Abbott and Scott Robinson as well as the Opposition leader in the Senate.

You'll find all the details for contacting MPs @ Parliament of Australia: House of Representatives[/url] under Members for either the HofR or the Senate.

Ultimately, it may be the media you need to turn to and whereas the plight of the Asylum Seekers and their use of the people smugglers gets much air-time, unfortunately the plight of those waiting does not and it will be the case of finding the appropriate media people prepared to tell the rest of the story, your chapter being part of it.
Dear Wanderer
I sincerely appreciate you for taking your time in writing me a meaningful reply.
For more information I need to add that I am originally from Afghanistan and I’ve got my Australian Citizenship. My son is living in Iran as a refugee, as you know one applying for humanitarian visa must be living in a second country. He and his family cannot return to Afghanistan due to his political background.
I am so disappointed to hear “The government does not want to declare openly that, for every person arriving via people smuggling that is one less place available for people to be sponsored.”
Even it seems like that there is no responsible organization to give a reasonable answer on what all these disintegration of law and order is about.
I approached the Global Feedback Unit, after two weeks the response for the complain was simply an email containing:
While we seek to process applications as soon as possible, all non-citizens applying for visas to enter Australia are considered on their individual merits and against legal requirements set out in Australia's migration legislation. This often includes requirements for health, character and national security checks that are undertaken in Australia and can take some time. The timing for the completion of checks varies from one case to another, depending on individual circumstances. Unfortunately, I am unable to provide you with a definitive timeframe for finalisation of these checks. You can be assured, however, that we will do all we can to ensure that his application is finalised as quickly as possible, once the outcome of these checks is known.
Given the delays in finalising these checks, we had escalated his application with the relevant authorities, and will do so again. I am sorry I do not have better news for him and his mother at this time.
Principal Migration Officer / First Secretary (Immigration) Department of Immigration and Citizenship Australian Embassy, Tehran

I also lodged a complaint to IGIS.The reply was nothing accept:
" I refer to your inquiry concerning any security assessment that may be required for this visa application.
The Australian Security Intelligence Organisation (ASIO) is the agency responsible for conducting security assessments. I have contacted ASIO for information about this visa application to check ASIO’s handling of any security assessment associated with the application.
This office can check whether or not ASIO is acting unreasonably or has made a processing error but we are not able to direct ASIO to change the priority of a case, or make the process quicker for a particular applicant.
Where we identify an issue requiring resolution, we liaise with the relevant agencies about the issue.
We will contact you if we require any further information about the case but will not provide any other feedback.
I suggest you maintain contact with the Department of Immigration and Citizenship (DIAC) for information about the status of the visa application.

On behalf of
Inspector-General
"
I feel so sick and tired of this, so do my son and his family. Now I’m afraid that the Flood in Queensland would be added to the excuses.
Whereas I’m old and have difficulty with the language I don’t have patient anymore.
I’m seeking a better way for solving this mystery as soon as possible.
Regards
Fatema Noori


Last edited by Fatema; 01-03-2011 at 08:06 AM.

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Old 01-03-2011, 10:27 PM
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You have certainly been proactive to date Fatema and I can understand the disappointment and frustration.
I cannot really see the Queensland floods as disastrous as they are having a huge impact on immigration issues and would not see it adding to excuses.

I would think that about all you can do at this stage is raise it directly with the ministers in the first place and I suspect you can expect to have them pass on your correspondence to the immigration department, though in some circumstances a good result may occur with the right sort of letter.
I would put it in more of an appeal approach, an appeal for compassion and their exercising of good judgement and you need to describe the saga in as clear and concise detail as you can - use dot points and give:
. date of your application
. dates of follow-up, correspondence and trip to Tehran
I'd try not to emphasise too much your age for as horrible as it may seem that could also work against the application if you are the only family they have in Australia.

What I would emphasise is that you know as onshore applications rise with people smuggling, offshore applications will be reduced and that does not seem to be true justice for Australians or your family attempting to abide by the regulations.

You could also state that it seems further inhumane that 500 special refugee places have been provided for people who have made the trip to Indonesia when there are millions more refugees, many in even more dire situations.

Do not at all be surprised if you are fobbed off again and at that point you have probably reached the arm twist stage and politicians get their arms twisted by the media and you'll then need to find someone in the media prepared to pick up the mantle.
George Negus is to be hosting a new current affairs show on Channel Ten this year and has already expressed his views on asylum seekers/people smuggling/refugees and on one hand whilst he has not said Australia should be opposing asylum seekers [ and no one would do that at the time of people losing their lives such as at Xmas Island recently], he has expressed how the refugee situation is a massive global problem with some 42M people involved, [ where he has added up both refugees and IDPs ] and he feels Australia is not doing its fair share which is a bit of a distortion of the truth.
But anyway, if George wants to fully understand the situation and how people like your son and his family may be disadvantaged by people smuggling, he and the new show might be one source for some of the twisting.





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