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Old 01-24-2014, 09:54 PM
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Tagging the docs is a good way to submit and helpful for them too.


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Hi All,

I need your help and some advice regarding my partner visa application:

This is my situation. I am Italian, I came here last year with my working holiday visa and I am in a relationship with an australian citizen.

I am nearing the end of her working holiday visa and I have not managed to find a job that will get her sponsorship (457 visa).

We are looking to get her onto a tourist visa without the no further stay condition (8503) so we can start producing our application for the partner visa (820 then 801). We will base our visa application that we are legally and genuinely in a de facto relationship.

The main requirement for the partner visa is evidence that we have been in a relationship for a minimum of 12 months prior to lodging our application.

The reality is we met in mid-February 2013 (the 2nd day I arrived in Australia on my working holiday visa). We've been 'dating' since then so we have arguably would have been in a relationship for at least 12 months

We intend to register our de facto relationship with the NSW Births, Deaths and Marriages agency. We will do this to bypass the 12-month relationship requirement.

Our biggest concern with our application is providing evidence with respect to the 1) financial aspects; and 2) nature of the household. In my opinion we have fairly weak evidence to meet these requirements.
1. We only started living together last week (and we are not on the lease) and we will live with his parents until we lodge our application (in about 2 months). So we don't have evidence of joint ownership of real estate (e.g. leasing, elec/utility account).
2. We haven't started sharing finances or operating bank finances.

I was just hoping to get your professional opinion on the strength of our case, given we will:
1. register our relationship with the NSW BDM
2. provide the necessary medical, character and police checks
3. certified copies of all the ID documents
4. evidence of our trip together to Mexico (August 2013) together to visit my mother's relatives.
5. evidence that our relationship is recognised socially (e.g. Christmas together)
6. our current living arrangements - living at home with my parents.

I hope I haven't overloaded you with information and detail - just want to give you all the facts to give a professional opinion on whether our application will be enough to meet the criteria?

We are looking to maybe see a migration agent too to get another professional opinion. Can you recommend any migration agent that specialise in partner visas in Sydney?

Thanks again for your help on this!!!!!!!
Roberta


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Hi All,

I need your help and some advice regarding my partner visa application:

This is my situation. I am Italian, I came here last year with my working holiday visa and I am in a relationship with an australian citizen.

I am nearing the end of her working holiday visa and I have not managed to find a job that will get her sponsorship (457 visa).

We are looking to get her onto a tourist visa without the no further stay condition (8503) so we can start producing our application for the partner visa (820 then 801). We will base our visa application that we are legally and genuinely in a de facto relationship.

The main requirement for the partner visa is evidence that we have been in a relationship for a minimum of 12 months prior to lodging our application.

The reality is we met in mid-February 2013 (the 2nd day I arrived in Australia on my working holiday visa). We've been 'dating' since then so we have arguably would have been in a relationship for at least 12 months

We intend to register our de facto relationship with the NSW Births, Deaths and Marriages agency. We will do this to bypass the 12-month relationship requirement.

Our biggest concern with our application is providing evidence with respect to the 1) financial aspects; and 2) nature of the household. In my opinion we have fairly weak evidence to meet these requirements.
1. We only started living together last week (and we are not on the lease) and we will live with his parents until we lodge our application (in about 2 months). So we don't have evidence of joint ownership of real estate (e.g. leasing, elec/utility account).
2. We haven't started sharing finances or operating bank finances.

I was just hoping to get your professional opinion on the strength of our case, given we will:
1. register our relationship with the NSW BDM
2. provide the necessary medical, character and police checks
3. certified copies of all the ID documents
4. evidence of our trip together to Mexico (August 2013) together to visit my mother's relatives.
5. evidence that our relationship is recognised socially (e.g. Christmas together)
6. our current living arrangements - living at home with my parents.

I hope I haven't overloaded you with information and detail - just want to give you all the facts to give a professional opinion on whether our application will be enough to meet the criteria?

We are looking to maybe see a migration agent too to get another professional opinion. Can you recommend any migration agent that specialise in partner visas in Sydney?

Thanks again for your help on this!!!!!!!
Roberta

You might have more luck with this question if you post in a different thread; this is for advice and questions on how to present or put together the application for best results, once you have your evidence collected.

Anyway, I'll try to help a little. First off, I'm a bit confused by your wording. When you talk about "her" being on a working holiday visa and wanting to get "her" a tourist visa, do you mean yourself? I assuming you do, since your boyfriend is the aus citizen, right?

As far as I know, you can only apply for a tourist visa and hope they don't give you the "no further stay" condition, it's not something you can plan for in your application. I don't know how likely they are to slap that condition on with someone who has been on a WHV and then straight afterwards applied for a tourist visa. It might make no difference and not be a problem.

Your main concern is that you don't have the conventional amount of evidence spanning 12 months. I think registering the relationship will help. It is possible to apply for a partner visa without 12 months of co-habiting evidence, as long as you give good reasons for not having this. A well written stat dec is important, as are the form 888s. I assume you'll be getting a standard 3 month tourist visa? You should get a joint bank account as soon as possible. The longer you can show solid evidence, the better your chances are. I'm wondering why you're not going to stop living with his parents until you apply - it'll be much better to show that you are living together independent of his parents before you apply, if possible.

Remember, you need to be able to show that you are in a de-facto relationship, not just dating. I know the line is somewhat blurred, but they'll need to be convinced that at your "start date" on your application, you began to have a shared life together to the exclusion of all others.

I think speaking to a migration agent might be a good idea, since you aren't going to be able to show that you've been co-habiting and financially co-dependent for 12 full months. There are ways to do it, I believe, but you'll need to check you're prepared and not just wasting your money.

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Just a small note there's no requirement of proof of living together for 12 months when registering your relationship in NSW, the only thing is that one of the applicants need to show proof of residence which should be a utility bill or similar not older than 3 months.

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You might have more luck with this question if you post in a different thread; this is for advice and questions on how to present or put together the application for best results, once you have your evidence collected.

Anyway, I'll try to help a little. First off, I'm a bit confused by your wording. When you talk about "her" being on a working holiday visa and wanting to get "her" a tourist visa, do you mean yourself? I assuming you do, since your boyfriend is the aus citizen, right?

As far as I know, you can only apply for a tourist visa and hope they don't give you the "no further stay" condition, it's not something you can plan for in your application. I don't know how likely they are to slap that condition on with someone who has been on a WHV and then straight afterwards applied for a tourist visa. It might make no difference and not be a problem.

Your main concern is that you don't have the conventional amount of evidence spanning 12 months. I think registering the relationship will help, though you usually have to have to provide evidence that you, personally, have been residing in NSW for 12 months when you apply for the relationship registration. The tourist visa will give you time to do that. It is possible to apply for a partner visa without 12 months of co-habiting evidence, as long as you give good reasons for not having this. A well written stat dec is important, as are the form 888s. I assume you'll be getting a standard 3 month tourist visa? You should get a joint bank account as soon as possible. The longer you can show solid evidence, the better your chances are. I'm wondering why you're not going to stop living with his parents until you apply - it'll be much better to show that you are living together independent of his parents before you apply, if possible.

Remember, you need to be able to show that you are in a de-facto relationship, not just dating. I know the line is somewhat blurred, but they'll need to be convinced that at your "start date" on your application, you began to have a shared life together to the exclusion of all others.

I think speaking to a migration agent might be a good idea, since you aren't going to be able to show that you've been co-habiting and financially co-dependent for 12 full months. There are ways to do it, I believe, but you'll need to check you're prepared and not just wasting your money.

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I stand corrected, it was that way in Vic when I tried. I'll change it. Thanks.

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Hey all. Someone just sent me a private message, and it reminded me that if the urge takes you it is helpful if you out your details on this online spreadsheet. It's only for London applicants at the moment.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...2TWJoLVE#gid=0

Also good if you want to see how long things are taking on average.

We are just approaching the 8 month mark, and checking emails daily!

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Sorry, link doesn't work for me.


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Hey guys, from VIC! we have applied for our 820 and my partner by mail (snail mail) is currently on a BVA we were recently emailed by immigration and requested to send an Australian Police check, we were given and email and sent police check over however the emailed bounced, and we cant find the email anywhere would anyone know what the email is.


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Hey guys, from VIC! we have applied for our 820 and my partner by mail (snail mail) is currently on a BVA we were recently emailed by immigration and requested to send an Australian Police check, we were given and email and sent police check over however the emailed bounced, and we cant find the email anywhere would anyone know what the email is.


Hey Daniel123,

How are you? You should try calling or maybe go in and discuss this issue with the DIBP office. Maybe someone in the office can help you by uploading your police check manually in their system with your other documents.

Hope this helps. Good Luck!

Kind Regards,
Becky


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Hi all, I have a quick question..

We have just applied for our 309 visa online and now are about to submit form 40SP and upload the evidences.

There are the exactly same questions as form 47SP on form 40SP. Can we just write the same thing or do they have to be different? (E.g. Financial aspects etc)

And also, how different a history of relationship written by each should be? I am concerned as my Aus sponsor used my format and writing, and he just changed it by his writing. I wrote a timeline chart, but there is also the same one in his.. So even though the content is not exactly the same, I am worried that the base is my writing..

Does anyone know about this?
Thank you..


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