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Old 01-24-2011, 01:50 PM
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Cards on Table..worried!

Hi Guys

UK guy Aussie partner Australia bound:

Just seem to be getting more and more worried! So the famed cry for help!!

Situation:

52 separated from wife for 6 years, good relationship still, 3 kids all growing up. Just awaiting divorce to come through.

Met my partner 5 years ago, An Australian professional working in the UK. My partner has always known that whilst the kids were young I would not consider any move out of the UK. So stayed here until I felt OK to go and the kids were old enough to travel by themselves.

Well as my partner has been away from home for 10 years now, It's time she got to go home!!

We have our own home in Brisbane waiting for us( still dry!), and plan to go in April this year, and I intend to start a building business.

We're going to Australia via 'defacto' which I'll apply for there after a couple of months. and the nearer it gets the more nervous I get!

Facts are these:
I'm 52 and she is 32. I'm on great terms with her parents and she is the same with my kids.

I'm not yet divorced and not sure how that effects things? I have one conviction in the past, 40 years ago a silly thing as a kid, but that still worries me!

We're both skint (church mouse skint!) as it's cost all our savings and more to put my wife through University (non-payed resident scholar). Although her parents a very able to initially help us resettle and set up business.
At most we'll have only a few thousand between us..but we have the Brisbane house I suppose.

I don't have to live in Australia for any other reason than I love my partner very much, and she's waited by me, and I in turn have moved many times having to give up work to promote her career. I suppose I'm trying to say it's not the place it's the person, and where she needs to be..waffle! sorry.

We 'are' going to Brisbane in April, and my partner feels it only right that before I make any long term plans to live in Australia, I should get a feel for it, and decide...Although to be honest I'm 99% certain I do.I've been many times over the past 5 years.

Anyone's thoughts would be welcome..I suppose I'm just freaking out a little...But even though it doesn't sound it! excited and determined!.But always worried about the 'grilling' and visa refusal?

Thanks for listening!


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Old 01-25-2011, 12:47 AM
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In general terms, you can probably work through the various processes with just a fair bit of commitment to the detail and paperwork required.
. If you are coming out for another look/see, doing it on a visitor visa may be OK and if you get quizzed by Immi, in that being what you are doing entry should not be a problem as far as using a visa for its intended purpose, applying for a partner visa down the track not needing to be mentioned.
You may want to not be carrying a lot personal documentation for that will just make it seem to be less of a visit.
. As for visa, a UK person posted just recently re applying for an eVisa and she was issued with a 12 months multiple entry visa without a No Further Stay condition on it and whatever entry visa you get, the absence of that condition will be necessary to make an onshore application, so first step is to see what is on the visitor visa.
The 12 month multiple entry also seems to be an ETA by another name for it did have a limit of three months stays at a time and so any further application needs to be made within the three months or you take a trip over to New Zealand and back.
If you get issued with a straight three months eVisa and it has the NFS, you may want to consider withdrawing that and seeing a travel agent who can book you an ETA.

To go on with a defacto partner visa application, not yet being divorced will not stop that occurring but you obviously need all the evidence that supports you having had the relationship and a read of Booklet#1 and the eligibility and applying sections info you will find via Family - Visas & Immigration is needed.
You would need to organise medicals for your children back in the UK is one matter to attend to and if travel has meant residing outside the UK for more than 12 month periods, there will be additional police checks.
I would not think you would have been sentenced to 12 months or more at age 12 unless a real bad lad and seeing as you've been on visits, it has not barred you or otherwise you have never declared it but you should if a child conviction was recorded.
Though a different situation, a read of el kittens sticky thread will give you some ideas of how she organised her application, though for an offshore visa.

Though Brisbane and region is going to have a heap of building work needed and plenty of opportunity for work you would expect, being able to is another story for being a builder, you really need to be licensed unless doing smaller handyman type work and you will find details @ BSA - Helping Queenslanders Build Better , the first thing you probably ought to be considering is getting your qualifications approved via. Trades Recognition Australia - Home
Both will take you a while to work through and it'll also take a while for a partner visa to be processed, some people posting that times of about nine months or more have been indicated and that could just be a factor of numbers of applications against available visa numbers.

If you did not have a NFS condition and have your partner visa application in, [ not leaving it until the last couple of weeks of your existing visa if you can help it ] you should get a bridging visa issued that will stay in place until a decision on the partner visa.
You can apply for permission to work when on a bridging visa and a poster recently posted on being successful with that, financial hardship usually the basis to apply on.
That way, you might be able to pick up some smaller type building jobs until you get licensed as a builder.

If you've not yet booked tickets and not a great idea until you're visa sorted and you're both a bit skint, have a look at Welcome to AirAsia.com... Now everyone can fly for they have cheap flights ex Stansted via KL to the Gold Coast just south of Brisbane.

So just a bit of planning and subsequent activity for you.





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Old 02-05-2011, 11:45 AM
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Wow...Thanks wanderer..like an oracle!

Sorry for late reply, but as you probably know, i've been busy filling forms etc.etc.
I've got a contact via my partners parents in Australia who's (along with you!) Calming my fears.

I've applied for and been granted a new evisa which is multiple entry and doesn't appear to mention NFS although I don't know in which context this would be mentioned?

Information is basically ..just be honest about your intentions, The Australian authorities won't need you to tell them of your plans. Was told "you've been in a relationship through thick and thin for 6 years..you're partner is returning home, you're not exactly going to shake hands and part"

Which brings me on to money..was told " you guys have somewhere to go, a great Australian family network to absorb you. You have very little in your accounts right now...but you've for the past 3 years of your relationship been devoted to each other supportive..and skint! but you've between you scraped together the rent..food..bills money
like any normal family has..accepted the high's and low's as a functioning relationship working through hardships which is the true test of a relationship not all good times" nice thing to say really!! Kinda puts a balance on it all.

I've been told that whilst in Australia I can study but only for three months,which (A) will give me something to do as my partner will be working, and (B) start the process of learning a new trade with Australian qualifications.

One question Wanderer..Why would my children need a medical check done?

But hey..thanks for all that info..damn fine..and generously my partners parents are paying all the returning home costs..They want us to have a little break on the way back..been a tough few years!!

But thanks again!!


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Well some inlaws you have gotta love don't you!
But look, a three months course will not get you too far with a trade course though you could see what is available through TAFE but being a visitor it'll still be best to be doing that to have a look see for if you have longer term plans that's what could create problems for you.
And children doing medicals is just part of the regulations for when you're looking ata more permanent visa.





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Well some inlaws you have gotta love don't you!
But look, a three months course will not get you too far with a trade course though you could see what is available through TAFE but being a visitor it'll still be best to be doing that to have a look see for if you have longer term plans that's what could create problems for you.
And children doing medicals is just part of the regulations for when you're looking ata more permanent visa.

Hi Wanderer

My kids aren't coming with me to Australia..One is at Coventry uni and the other two are in College prior to uni..what's your trusted thoughts?

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Old 02-06-2011, 01:39 AM
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Yep, don't matter if they aren't coming, still a medical required for them.





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Old 02-06-2011, 11:21 AM
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Hi Wanderer..A little confused here? probably making my own confusion!!

Reading through the booklet it states that dependant children/adults are deemed to be people who rely on you for their primary care, and you provide that care firstly and above all others. this applies to children over the age of 18 who have continued in full time education. Although we obviously provide pocket monies and holiday cash etc..The kids have for years lived with mum and long term partner, who have provided them with day to day care, home food etc..so I make that..she and partner provide the primary care? Am I getting this wrong? looking at some of the other sites this seems to be a grey area?

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You're best to check with Immi re P 20 @ http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/booklets/1127.pdf
It may only be for those under 18 YO but then again it could be as it says all members of the family unit.





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Old 02-06-2011, 05:52 PM
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Thanks Wanderer, I've read a few posts on other sites and there is a bit of confusion over the wording as you said..it's kinda generic and open to what applies to you, trouble is only DIAC can tell me what they think applies?

I leave it at that for now, and I've contacted a few registered agents in Brisbane it'll be easier to sort things there as we've got a pile to do here - UK. Been advised to leave all my personal documents etc-etc with a trusted friend in the UK who can forward them if needed, not to take any meds as yet or police checks as it could take a while to get any form of response. If my papers are initially accepted I may be eligible for a 'bridging visa'?(is that right?) and if I decide after seeking professional help to apply on-shore, that should be fine even with an evisa, as it would be after a consultation.

Thinking my case WILL need an agent!! foolish otherwise!

I'll keep you posted on what's said!


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Old 02-07-2011, 01:33 AM
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I do not know if it is actually the eVisa that some people are applying for or not but quite a few of late get issued with a three months stay at a time visa of 12 months validity and those do not seem to have a No Further Stay condition, so basically an ETA.
Without a No Further Stay condition you can normally apply onshore for another onshore visa and yes, get a bridging visa though I'm not aware of how Immi are handling the situation re the 12 months validity, three months at a time scenario for in reality a Bridging visa is only supposed to be issued when an existing visa expires and that is not quite the case when someone gets to the three months leave and you can return point in time.
Something you ought to check with Immi after arrival when ready to apply.
Other than that, your application ought to be reasonably straightforward and re the kids medicals, just do not bother with it but you do have to show them on the application form and if a medical is required for them they'll let you know.
You'll save youtrself about $3000 in not using an agent.





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