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Old 06-15-2014, 05:34 AM
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Michael, it is very possible to do your own application and submit it but to anyone I would recommend this to pay the little extra to have an approved agent check it. It with all the documents and forms very easy to make a simple mistake or omit something or the current trend of extra information wanted. I think mine was around $600, but we did screw up a bit and got to rectify it. I know money is tight for you but give it a thought a simple mistake can cause big delays or worse.

P.S. We managed to get a visitor visa from Ukraine (eventually) so she got to meet my family and friends that now helps in our application, others are not so lucky to be able to do that and I really feel or them.

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Totally with you man. The Justice of Peace in Perth went over everything with her papers and I've called the embassy here in North America a million times and it appears everything is correct. U did mention "too much." We have stacks of Skype calls and FB wall posts and messaging which I took bits and pieces out of because it's over 20,000 mgs. However, I wanted everything to stick together that matches the introduction letters so I hope they won't fault me for doing so. It's like trying to win a court case.

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Old 06-15-2014, 07:07 AM
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Rumour has it they don't give much care for Skype, FB or other cheap convenient methods of communication we use (Telco company phone records liked). They pretty much don't count anything before you actually meet and if it is not an arranged marriage then section about your future plans needs to be well documented. They also seem to like more than the 2 required 888 forms.

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Old 06-15-2014, 07:49 AM
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We had no telco records ours was all viber, rebtel, facebook and bkackerry messenger and had no problem at all.

They do like to see photos of you with your partners friends when you have visited them.

We provided chat extract specifically of us talking about marriage and religion (we are different religions).


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P.S. We managed to get a visitor visa from Ukraine (eventually) so she got to meet my family and friends that now helps in our application, others are not so lucky to be able to do that and I really feel or them.
Couldn't agree more! Where my husband was from they reject majority of tourist visa applications at that embassy. Then they asked him at interview why he hadn't met my family *sigh*. Do they think he is Samantha from b*witched and can just zap himself here!


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Hey Michael - I'm also originally from Virginia and applied through DC for a PMV as well, so if you have any questions just let me know.

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Old 06-15-2014, 02:07 PM
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As far as I'm aware, FB messages, Skype, viber et al are definitely acceptable forms of evidence of communication. I think most COs are aware of the ease with which these things can be used and also the prohibitive cost of international phone calls. My husband and I very rarely actually called one another because it was so expensive and Skype and FaceTime (via our iPads) was cheap (Skype) and free (FaceTime). In fact, those thkngs are so commonly used now that I would imagine that a CO would be suspicious if they were NOT used! I mean, when I think of internet scammers, the biggest red flag for me would be someone who claims they cannot remain in constant contact via those methods and instead used weekly (or monthly) phone calls. That conjures up this idea of someone who has multiple victims on the go at one time. I'm not saying that everyone who operates that way is a scammer, and obviously there are people who cannot even afford the devices required to operate those programs, but it's certainly not a bad thing to have them as evidence with or without actual phone records. Don't be afraid to submit them, and don't be worried if you lack phone records, I didn't submit any because the few phone calls I made I used an international SIM card which I have since lost when my purse got stolen. My husband got his phone records but he literally only called me 3 times in over a year, lol. Why bother when FaceTime meant we could see and hear one another for free?

Definitely cut down the messages from over 20,000 though! They suggest that a representative sample is submitted and generally the common consensus on here seems to be that a few examples from each month you kept in contact is sufficient. Try and include relevant conversations where you discuss your relationship, your future, significant events etc.

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Old 06-15-2014, 02:13 PM
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And I definitely agree that it's a good idea to at least pay for a migration agent to check over your completed application before submission. If you feel extremely confident in your application, then you might not feel the need, but if there is anything less that totally straight forward in your case then it's definitely better to get that professional assistance.

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Good morning Ampk, Mish, Collegegirl and Star Hunter! Thank you all for your feedback definitely puts more things at ease. In regards to Ampk's studies at first I was told not to put in FB messaging but it would only make sense because there's a 12 hour difference between us and I chit chat with her briefly before work right before she goes to bed and vice versa, then we Skype every other weekend or less depending on holidays but I work retail so you know how that goes. Star, thank you for pointing out what convos to look for I've been looking for the "right" things to put thank God Fb has evolved into what it is cuz it's so much cussing, random talk about TV shows, laughter and "other things" I still have all day today to rearrange some things. To Mish's point about pics with our friends... not too many of them because all my friends live in different states and we only saw a few of them briefly for a football game but we were in NEW YORK, DC and Baltimore and spending time alone for the most part because there's is nothing to do in VA and Collegirl could vouch for that I'm sure. She does have a pic with my mother, sister, cousin and aunt during a ladies night out for their birthday and I have plenty of pics with her family during my visit to Perth. I hope that isn't a big problem as most of our pics are of us together in front of landmarks like Statue of Liberty, Empire State Building, she has a solo shot at the White House and we took pics together in Margaret River and in Kings Park in Perth.


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Michael, just keep in mind that the prospective marriage visa is much "lighter" in terms of the evidence required, compared to the partner visa. A lot of what you read on here and in the migration booklet etc will also pertain to the spouse/defacto visa and may sound scarier than it actually is. Evidence is important, but be careful not to get yourself into a tizzy over "evidence" that may actually be more applicable to people from high risk countries or for those applying for the substantive partner visa.

FB messaging is definitely ok, what they really don't want is reams and reams of conversations and when they talk about not including it, they are usually referring to not submitted your entire chat history! Believe it or not, but some people do send in everything they have ever said, adding up to thousands of pages and no CO wants to read all that. Sending in a few snippets from each month is more than adequate and proves that you maintained contact while apart. You can also send in a screenshot of your email inbox/outbox as evidence as well, instead of sending in the actual emails. Just proving that you did send and receive emails on a regular basis to your love is sufficient. If you have telco records, submit them, but don't feel like they are the only evidence that matters. Many, many applicants do not have telco records and the vast majority of applicants submit evidence of some kind of messenger application/program because that's just how things are in today's day and age. Your CO will understand and will likely consider anything along those lines as evidence.

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