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Old 01-30-2011, 06:09 AM
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Hi,

I'm a Canadian citizen planning on moving to Perth by April this year in order to be with my boyfriend who is an Australian citizen. We started our relationship in March 2010 in Tokyo, but have never "officially" lived together, as our names were not together on any lease, and he never got his mail sent to my apartment, or mine to his. We spent enough time at each others apartments that we were pretty much living together, and we shared household expenses such as food, although I paid for all the rent and utilities at my apartment, and he lived with his parents so that was taken care of on his side.

This January he came to visit me in Canada for 2 weeks to meet my family. Now he is returning to Australia for work, and I have returned to Canada in order to save up money (living with parents here, so no rent) to go join him in Australia, and get a proper visa.

I was planning on going on a WHV and then applying for a de facto visa before that expired. I am not really able to do the 3 months of fruit picking so I can't extend my WHV to 2 years.

I'm worried that since we don't have any official documents or even letters to the same address to support that we have lived together, we won't be able to fulfill the 1 year relationship requirement in time.

I was told about document 888, Statutory declaration by a supporting witness relating to a partner visa application that could be filled out by my boyfriends parents attesting to our relationship. Would this be sufficient evidence of a committed relationship, that could be used in place of documents proving that we lived together for 1 year? Or at least count for something, so that the time we live together in Australia until we apply for the de facto visa will be sufficient, even though that may not be a full 365 days?

We have photos and e-mails since the beginning of our relationship, plenty of Skype records (all our phone records may not be attainable, as I have cancelled my phone in Japan and he is doing the same), and probably some letters. We've also kept little trinkets like movie tickets and things.

Would it even be possible to apply for the de facto visa before I even went to Australia? Or would it be better to go on a WHV and then just apply for it later?

Thank you so much for your help!


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Old 01-30-2011, 10:03 AM
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Stuff like statements and photos are really only secondary to official documentation of some kind, icing on the cake you could say.
I do not know why you feel you could not do three months regional work and there is also WWOOF Australia Official Website that can enable you to get the three months up and one way or another you ought to try your dammest to do it as that is by far the best way to ensure you have plenty of time to get the at least 12 months together and plan things so you will have good documentation.

There are many threads on parent visas with other aspects mentioned and you also ought to have a read of the sticky thread by el kitten, stickies being at top of those listed.





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Old 01-30-2011, 05:53 PM
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Thanks Wanderer! Yes, I did read all the stickied posts and found them to be very helpful It is kind of overwhelming. Upon reflection, I may have one or two bills (and possibly an invoice from work) that were in my name with my boyfriends address, but I guess just those on their own along with the future months (let's say 11 months) of proper documentation (names on leases, joint accounts, etc.) will not be enough? I remember reading someone mentioning about opening a joint account in Australia and using the funds from there to pay for their WHV expenses (plane tickets and such) so it would be helpful in their de facto visa application. If I do that, could that joint account be used as proof when applying for my WHV that I have the funds even though it is not from a financial institute in Canada?

I guess I phrased myself wrong, I should have said I'm not sure if I can do the 3 months of fruit picking due to work obligations that I will have in Perth but I will try and see if I can. It would make things much easier!

Thank you for your help


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Old 01-30-2011, 08:54 PM
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Forget your documentation up to now as far as that being used for the 12 months as the 12 months will start being counted from when you are residing together.
It can be background information re length of knowing oneanother to help with the commitment aspect and setting up a joint bank account if you can will not hurt but you may find you need to be in Australia to do that.
You'll most likely not be asked about funds with a WHV but any funds count, even a balance of a credit card account.

You can only work for the one employer for six months at a time so there'll likely be a limit to what you can arrange ahead and if you do not try and get your three months up early on so as you'll have a better 12 months+ period, that'll just be creating a problem for yourself.
Forget 11 months for it is 12+ that you need.





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