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Old 06-26-2014, 11:26 AM
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I agree there should be more done to stop the free rides of people who fake relationships and leave after two years. However, statistically most marriages that are going to fail do so in the first few years so saying there's an additional 5 year verification check may actually end in a lot of deportations for those who got here legitimately but their genuine relationship broke down.

Maybe immigration could force a few months of couples counseling in immigration cases where the relationship is breaking down right around two years? Let a licensed psychologist decide whether the couple has genuine martial issues or if the real issue is "I got my PR so I'll be heading out now". A check like that would catch a lot of these visa marriages without punishing the people who really just couldn't make it work.

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Old 06-26-2014, 11:30 AM
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I really hate that! Even with the processing times getting longer and the price getting more expensive there are still people doing it. It makes me sad when you see genuine people in a relationship that get rejected ... Starbreeze and Polly are 2 that come to my mind straight away.
Yes Mish you are so right. All those people patiently waiting while fraudulent applicants are clogging the system.
Unfortunately Australian citizens are also to blame, i know of one case where the Australian partner was demanding $10,000 so as the overseas applicant could get their PR!

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Old 06-26-2014, 11:31 AM
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As waiting times are growing and promises made to implement changes to reduce them continue not to work, I decided to send the above. I got the initial reply form the staff at the office and I replied to that standard response. I will post those and others here unless this post is removed or shifted.

If there are things that I am incorrect on in my writings, or any suggestions please comment. If I am wrong on anything I am happy to correct it or admit it, the raft of information and its form of availability make it a mine field to work through.

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Really appreciate what you have done ampk!!!

Please keep us posted.

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Old 06-26-2014, 12:27 PM
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“Unlike the skilled migration programs, applicants for a partner visa can be any nationality, any skill level and from any occupation.” -- Great comment – the published documents from the department for Family Stream migration give cost benefits in the $billions for the economy past and present!
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That's interesting to know. Would certainly be a good point to focus upon.

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Old 06-26-2014, 01:28 PM
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Adam, yes it is.

But to prove processing times and "caps" easiest is to look at overseas staff levels, about constant at 1,000 for many years and the ratio of offshore processing's that has also been about constant in %.

That is isolated from the current excuse's of boat arrivals as the reason, even though they are different section staff here in Australia.

Adam. certain professionals that have to work "with" this department, I am sure can not comment on topics like this (gagged by department) if you need to remove your posts I understand.

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I work as a service manager for a migration agency, so the DIBP have no hold over my views and I'm never afraid to voice them. They do some things well, some things not so well, I just tell it like it is.

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Old 06-26-2014, 09:49 PM
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I agree there should be more done to stop the free rides of people who fake relationships and leave after two years. However, statistically most marriages that are going to fail do so in the first few years so saying there's an additional 5 year verification check may actually end in a lot of deportations for those who got here legitimately but their genuine relationship broke down.
Yes but they reason they came to Australia was because of the relationship. If it ends there is no need for them to stay in Australia. If they want to stay they can apply for a different kind of visa.


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Old 06-26-2014, 10:07 PM
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Yes but they reason they came to Australia was because of the relationship. If it ends there is no need for them to stay in Australia. If they want to stay they can apply for a different kind of visa.
Good point Mish, they bypass most of the normal requirements that are required of other potential migrants on the grounds of the relationship, hadn't given much thought to what should happen when the relationship ends.

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I will be interested on the reply that you get.

I must say that even though I have waited out that time being apart from my partner I for one would not want to see the processing times reduced IF it means they are rushing the applications and therefore letting in more people that are not in a legitimate relationship.

Maybe to get faster processing times and take into account people that use people to get a visa to oz you could suggest that they do a review of the permanent resident visa after 5 years . I did think that would be a great idea, the people get permanent residence which helps with jobs but at the same time they see they need to be in the relationship for about 8 years or more ... a win, win situation

So if my partner decides to leave me after more than five years together, my permanent visa should be withdrawn? Five years in a country is a long time of working and paying taxes and making it your own home. But maybe that wasn't what you meant?


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Old 06-26-2014, 11:34 PM
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Yes but they reason they came to Australia was because of the relationship. If it ends there is no need for them to stay in Australia. If they want to stay they can apply for a different kind of visa.
After five years there could be many reasons and needs to stay, family, friends and work commitments.


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