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Old 02-16-2011, 07:40 AM
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Question student visa vs. prospective marriage visa dilemma :(

Hi my fiance and I are so confused about the best visa option to apply for. In a nutshell we are engaged and good history and proof of our relationship and naturally thought the subclass 300 would be the best. BUT he is Turkish and hasn't done his compulsory military service yet (12 months) and is due to do this in September. Before we pay the $1735 to apply for the 300 we want to make sure it won't be rejected because of no military service.

One way to defer military would be to come as a student and do an English course (which is what he was going to do anyway even if coming as a fiance). But then he would most likely get a" no further stay" condition being from a high risk country?

So is it better to come as a student, get married while here and then apply for a partner visa - or can't this be done if he had a no further stay condition? OR go ahead with the prospective marriage visa and hope for the best? I am so confused any help is most appreciated

EDIT - he is a qualified specialist doctor and in the occupation list Australia is keen to attract, although a business visa is out of the question as he needs to come here and do the OET and get his qualification recognised which would take around a year.


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I am from Turkey too.When ı applied my partner visa in 2007 ı hadnt done my military service but ı had to show my postponed certificate and ı got my visa in 2,5 months and when ı arrived Australia ı contacted Turkish embassy and I was able to postponed another 2 years and ıf your partner stays in Australia 3 years he could come and do his military service in 28 days it cost 5000 euros but worth it.This chance only for males who lives in abroad. so it is an option for you.even if your boyfriend applied student visa they might ask military postponed certificate.


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I am from Turkey too.When ı applied my partner visa in 2007 ı hadnt done my military service but ı had to show my postponed certificate and ı got my visa in 2,5 months and when ı arrived Australia ı contacted Turkish embassy and I was able to postponed another 2 years and ıf your partner stays in Australia 3 years he could come and do his military service in 28 days it cost 5000 euros but worth it.This chance only for males who lives in abroad. so it is an option for you.even if your boyfriend applied student visa they might ask military postponed certificate.
Hi and thank you for your reply. How did you get a postponement certificate if you don't mind me asking? He is just about to complete university in July and has a letter saying he must do military service in September - how would he get a postponement? We are aware of the payment option at the end of three years abroad, but will they let him out to begin with


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I am not aware of how the Immi people in Turkey go about processing visas for people to migrate to Australia but for some other countries at least, doing military service only is a factor when someone has been in the military and needs to have discharge papers.

If someone immigrated to Australia because they were able to get a visa prior to doing any military service and becomes a resident of Australia, I'd feel the Australian government may have a view that they would rather a person not going abroad to do military service for another country unless of course it is a secondment of some nature to an allied partner country, and this would be especially so once someone became a citizen.

I can understand that it could create difficulties for someone Turkish who immigrated without doing military service if it was expected and then some years later wanted to return to Turkey but then again if they were already an Australian Citizen and returned on an Australian passport, I'm not too sure that they could have expectations of them.

It is something that may be worth discussing with Australian Immigration and their Global Feedback Unit under Contact is probably a good place to start.





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When you finish your degree you have 1 or 2 years.You dont have to go to military unless you are over 29 years old.Because imagine people who want to do their master or have work experiences so that if your boyfriend is finishing his degree this year he can go and extend his time to go to military.As soons as he graguate this year he could go to a recruiting office for the army and show his diploma and postpone his service and with this certificate you guys can apply for a prospective marriage visa and once he gets his visa from Australia he can postpone his millitary again.Because that visa will allow him to work and live in Australia.I hope this hepls


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When you finish your degree you have 1 or 2 years.You dont have to go to military unless you are over 29 years old.Because imagine people who want to do their master or have work experiences so that if your boyfriend is finishing his degree this year he can go and extend his time to go to military.As soons as he graguate this year he could go to a recruiting office for the army and show his diploma and postpone his service and with this certificate you guys can apply for a prospective marriage visa and once he gets his visa from Australia he can postpone his millitary again.Because that visa will allow him to work and live in Australia.I hope this hepls
He is 33 and just at the end of 11 years of study, I think this doesn't apply for him


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like ı said he is over 29 years old so it doesnt apply to him.he is still student though so you have 8 months u guys might be able apply prospective marriage visa untill september hopefully he would get his visa .As ı know his millitary recruiment hasnt started yet.it is little bit diffucult situation you have but if you guys are planing to ge married than apply th visa as soon as possible.


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ankaralı thank you so so much, I really appreciate your help


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