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my American fiance is going to apply for a PMV and we're trying to sort through all the info and find out as much as we can before we lodge our application.

He has been hospitalised a few times years ago for depression and up until very recently was on disability benefits because of the depression. He's not taken any medication for several years now.

We weren't going to get the medical exam done until after we'd lodged the application because of the whole expiring after 12 months scenario. However now we're wondering if we should maybe get the medical done prior to lodging and paying for the application so we know what the medical report says prior to paying all that money.

I am wondering if anyone has any experience/knowledge on how a history of depression/being on disability benefits may affect his visa application. I work full-time so can support him until he finds work here.

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Old 07-17-2014, 02:19 AM
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Medical Issues

Health issues are covered in Public Interest Criteria (PIC) 4005. Every applicant for a PMV (and most other visas) must meet this requirement. Basically it is this:

You must be free from TB, or a condition that may result in the applicant being a threat to public health in Australia or a danger to the Australian community.

You must also be free from a disease or condition in relation to which:

1. A person who has it would be likely to require health care of community Services (including a social security benefit), meet the medical criteria for the provision of community services, AND

2. The provision of those services be likely to result in a significant cost to the Australian community in the areas of health care and community services, or prejudice the access of an Australian citizen or permanent resident to health care or community services.

Regardless of whether the health care or community services will actually be used in connection with the applicant.

Regarding taking the medical prior to lodging your application, you have to bear in mind that the Medical will be conducted by an Australian panel doctor and will be assessed by a delegate of the Medical Officer of the Commonwealth. It must be delivered to them unopened. You will not be able to see the results of the medical examination.

In 4005 it refers to Significant Cost. This is interpreted to mean any current medical condition that is going to cost Medicare $20,000 or more in the first 5 years. If you are concerned that your fiance will have a problem meeting condition 4005, it would be wise to have the Australian panel doctor prepare a letter for you addressing the health issues and treatments, and assure the Commonwealth Medical Officer that it will not cost any more than that.

I hope this helps.

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Your best bet in my opinion is going to be contacting a migration agent who specializes in medical issues. The two typically recommended on this forum are George Lombard and Peter Bollard. I used George myself when I was applying from a PMV from the US, and his office was incredibly helpful. No problem using them from the States, by the way - most migration agents are used to working with clients worldwide. George or Peter can tell you in a consultation if your situation is likely to be a problem when migrating or not. And if it won't be a problem - they'll tell you that honestly.

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Hi there

my American fiance is going to apply for a PMV and we're trying to sort through all the info and find out as much as we can before we lodge our application.

He has been hospitalised a few times years ago for depression and up until very recently was on disability benefits because of the depression. He's not taken any medication for several years now.

We weren't going to get the medical exam done until after we'd lodged the application because of the whole expiring after 12 months scenario. However now we're wondering if we should maybe get the medical done prior to lodging and paying for the application so we know what the medical report says prior to paying all that money.

I am wondering if anyone has any experience/knowledge on how a history of depression/being on disability benefits may affect his visa application. I work full-time so can support him until he finds work here.

thanks
I don't think you will have any problem with that, mental illness is fairly cheap to control with medication if your partner would require it. The main things they worry about are chronic illnesses that can cost a heap of money to the government, for example diabetes where people could have amputations, heart conditions, stuff like that.

I wouldn't stress too much about it. I'm not an expert, but I know a couple of people who got through the system fine.


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Depression itself won't be an issue. HOWEVER, they also take into account other government resources - and the inability to work because of any health condition (disability) IS something they will take into account and could very well be a cause of rejection. That's why I'm really, really suggesting professional advice on this one.

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As an example, people with disabled kids often find themselves unable to migrate because their kids will need special classes and resources - not just because of the cost of their healthcare.

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As an example, people with disabled kids often find themselves unable to migrate because their kids will need special classes and resources - not just because of the cost of their healthcare.
I agree with CG that when dealing with immigration, professional help is always the best way to go when you have strong doubts that can't be answered by just anyone.

Although children with special needs or adults with special needs are different to people with mental illness as mental illness is something that can be controlled with cheap medication, where down syndrome or something like that can't as it's a permanent disability.

You could read around this forum where people have posted about their health assessment and mental illness in the past to find out a bit more.

Like I said before, I wouldn't be too worried of that affecting my own health assessment, but the best option would always be to consult someone with professional opinions.


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Also, something that can help your cause would be to provide proof that you have the condition under control. You can probs provide statements from doctors and stuff like that for consideration.


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As an example, people with disabled kids often find themselves unable to migrate because their kids will need special classes and resources - not just because of the cost of their healthcare.
I candidates have "special" children there is a pathway if they are sponsored by an employer. Applicants for a 457 have to meet 4006A and not 4005. Then if they are sponsored under the transitional regulations to either an ENS or RSMS they they have to satisfy 4007 and not 4005. Both of these have some lee way for people who don't meet 4005.

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Not all visa applicants are sponsored by an employer. I can't even tell you how many heartbreaking stories I've read on another forum about people whose child had special needs and they weren't allowed to migrate. It's very sad.

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