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Defacto or Sponsorship? Help me choose


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Old 03-12-2011, 08:59 PM
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Defacto or Sponsorship? Help me choose

Hi

I am German, living in London for over 10 years. My girlfriend is from Australia and we have been living together for 1 1/2 years.

I have a job offer from a firm in Perth, WA and they want to sponsor me. (Subclass 457 - I am an architect)

I cant figure out if I should apply for the defacto Visa or go for the sponsorship.

Can I apply for the defacto Visa while I am on the sponsorship Visa in Australia?

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance for any ideas/help. This forum is a great resource and I have been reading the stickies with great interest.


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Old 03-12-2011, 11:09 PM
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It is quite possible the 457 visa will get you to Australia quicker and yes, you could then put in your application for a partner visa while in Australia.
Just make sure you collate your evidence of the relationship prior to leaving the UK so you have less difficulty putting it all together on arrival here, maybe even roughing out your application while waiting for the 457 would be a good idea and so you'll see what info you should have for the partner visa.
Doing things like arranging police checks and any landlord and other living together evidence would help you.





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Thanks for getting back to so quickly.

I have already started ( I have rental agreement with both our names, water bill, tons of plane tickets travelling together including a trip to Perth to see her family, birth certificate, police check, photos etc. etc.) and filled out the defacto form.

I have noticed that if you apply for the defacto onshore it takes a few weeks, whereas if you apply in London it takes about 6 months.

Could I be so blunt and ask: "what would you do?" considering that I want to get the hell out of here (London) as soon as possible.


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Partner visas onshore can take more than a few weeks and most could average about six months though if you have a good application, complete, accurate and with good evidence you might get one through a bit quicker, it just depending on staffing/workload issues and where Immi with its annual allocated numbers and that coming into this time of the year approaching end of the financial and government budgets year can delay processing.

All that may not matter so much if you're here working on a 457 visa and if you want out of London in the quickest time and have the option of employer sponsorship that's what I would go for.





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Partner visas onshore can take more than a few weeks and most could average about six months though if you have a good application, complete, accurate and with good evidence you might get one through a bit quicker, it just depending on staffing/workload issues and where Immi with its annual allocated numbers and that coming into this time of the year approaching end of the financial and government budgets year can delay processing.

All that may not matter so much if you're here working on a 457 visa and if you want out of London in the quickest time and have the option of employer sponsorship that's what I would go for.
Ok, the company will help me with the 457 so I will sort this out today.

Then I have two options:

Either apply for the defacto Visa while onshore
or apply for employer sponsorship

both will get the job done. Right?

Thank you for helping me to navigate through the options.


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The 457 is employer sponsorship.
If you mean that your options after that are
. Company goes on to sponsor you on PR or
. You apply onshore for the partner visa

That's correct and cost for either is the same.
The PR employer sponsorship will also mean you would have PR and then eventually the option of citizenship and an Australian passport a lot quicker if you have eligibility re three years of experience to fast track the PR sponsorship as with the partner visa option you get temporary residency first and then two years after that application you would be up for PR.





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The 457 is employer sponsorship.
If you mean that your options after that are
. Company goes on to sponsor you on PR or
. You apply onshore for the partner visa

That's correct and cost for either is the same.
The PR employer sponsorship will also mean you would have PR and then eventually the option of citizenship and an Australian passport a lot quicker if you have eligibility re three years of experience to fast track the PR sponsorship as with the partner visa option you get temporary residency first and then two years after that application you would be up for PR.


Interesting. What do you mean with "re three years of experience?"

The problem is that I will not be able to get an australian passport - as Germany does not allow dual citizen ship. I would loose my German passport and therefore would need a visa to go home. Maybe one day but at the moment I can not imagine not being a European citizen. But I do want to become a permanent resident asap.

I don't think there is an advantage of giving up my German citizenship, at least none I can think of.

The funny thing is that I only received my German citizenship when I was 6 years old (even though I was born there), before that I was considered stateless. It is funny how things change over time.

I do think that Australia have an excellent system going. It seems that if you are honest and will contribute to their system it is all very welcoming.


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Interesting. What do you mean with "re three years of experience?"
Once having an employer sponsored TR, PR can be attained a number of ways on a skilled basis
. You hold an employer sponsorship 457 for two years and then see if the employer will sponsor you for PR.
. If you have your qualifications assessed and have at least three years of experience in your profession, an employer if eligible to can sponsor you direct for PR
Details @ Employer Sponsored Workers - Workers - Visas & Immigration
Or you see about putting in an independent skilled visa application and you can do that anytime - Professionals and other Skilled Migrants - Workers - Visas & Immigration
You ought to have a read of the What's New link on that page too as there is information there about processing priorities and state sponsorship re the SMP 176 visa.
Or alternately you just stick with the partner visa approach.

Re maintaining the German citizenship for EU access, have you considered whether with ten years in the UK you are eligible for UK citizenship as that would still allow you EU access and you can hold both UK and Australian citizenship simultaneously.





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