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Hi! I am new here...I am just wondering...does anyone have any current processing times for partner visas to Australia (Either the 309 or Prospective Marriage Visa....do they take the same amt of time generally?)...

The website says 5 months....but when I called to ask some questions they told me it is more like one year. Every forum I have been on, it seems on average to take 3 months...sometimes even shorter! But then a lot of the posts are a couple years old. Anybody currently in waiting, or recently obtained a partner visa into Australia from Canada? I am just wondering about how accurate the wait times are.

Also...quick advice...my partner and myself met online in January. We speak non stop via texting (imessage) and don't have a lot of evidence of this. He did come and spend a couple weeks with me (photos, etc) and I had planned on coming to see him this fall and marrying (under a tourist visa...is this ok??). We are trying to keep costs as low as possible as neither of us are financially well off. It seems the PMV will cost us a lot more in the long run as a partner visa (which is why we plan to marry first...but will this cause red flags?!). Any advice is appreciated!


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Old 08-16-2014, 09:25 PM
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Hi! I am new here...I am just wondering...does anyone have any current processing times for partner visas to Australia (Either the 309 or Prospective Marriage Visa....do they take the same amt of time generally?)...

The website says 5 months....but when I called to ask some questions they told me it is more like one year. Every forum I have been on, it seems on average to take 3 months...sometimes even shorter! But then a lot of the posts are a couple years old. Anybody currently in waiting, or recently obtained a partner visa into Australia from Canada? I am just wondering about how accurate the wait times are.

Also...quick advice...my partner and myself met online in January. We speak non stop via texting (imessage) and don't have a lot of evidence of this. He did come and spend a couple weeks with me (photos, etc) and I had planned on coming to see him this fall and marrying (under a tourist visa...is this ok??). We are trying to keep costs as low as possible as neither of us are financially well off. It seems the PMV will cost us a lot more in the long run as a partner visa (which is why we plan to marry first...but will this cause red flags?!). Any advice is appreciated!
Hi CantoAus
I am afraid the days of 3 to 5 months are well past, the quotes of around 12 months are far more accurate.
Most posters here will advise that you go for a PMV as the degree of evidence you require is much less than that of a partner visa and at the moment you certainly have enough evidence as you have met in person. You could try an come here on a tourist visa, get married or register your relationship in states that allow it,and apply for a onshore partner visa, BUT you would need to be here for at least 6 months before applying for a partner visa and gather enough evidence to prove the genuine nature of your relationship. Once you have submitted your PMV application you can come here on a tourist visa while waiting for your PMV approval.
I would suggest you read through the threads here and see the level of evidence others have had to provide.

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That's what I was afraid of! The thing is the PMV will cost me a lot more (I have two children) and finances are so tight as it is. And a year....ugh.....this is so hard. He is unable to come and stay with me...and it is very hard for me to go there long term on a tourist visa (and my kids couldn't attend school, and I couldn't work!). Frustrating..


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Hi CantoAus


I read up on your situation and it's very similar to mine being that we are both in an online relationship. My fiance' and I have over 20,000 msgs but the embassy stressed to me they don't want "STACKS" of messaging so if you have only a "few" that can prove you all talk everyday that should be enough and of course include your pictures, etc. Any evidence big or small you have throw it in there to play it safe.

As far as financial hard times I know it all to well as the PMV is quite expensive. My mother in law to be had to pitch in as I was laid off from my old job 4 months prior to lodging our application. I'm not sure if your family or future in laws or whoever would be willing to do the same but my suggestion to you would be to put everything together first and do the financial thing last. You have so much more to look forward to like birth certificates, passports, Intent to Marry letter/form police and medical checks and the hardest part: STAT 888 docs/Witness statements and getting them notarized. Tough task but I'm sure it will be well worth it in the end as I'm still waiting as well. Keep us all posted and good luck.


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I read up on your situation and it's very similar to mine being that we are both in an online relationship. My fiance' and I have over 20,000 msgs but the embassy stressed to me they don't want "STACKS" of messaging so if you have only a "few" that can prove you all talk everyday that should be enough and of course include your pictures, etc. Any evidence big or small you have throw it in there to play it safe.

As far as financial hard times I know it all to well as the PMV is quite expensive. My mother in law to be had to pitch in as I was laid off from my old job 4 months prior to lodging our application. I'm not sure if your family or future in laws or whoever would be willing to do the same but my suggestion to you would be to put everything together first and do the financial thing last. You have so much more to look forward to like birth certificates, passports, Intent to Marry letter/form police and medical checks and the hardest part: STAT 888 docs/Witness statements and getting them notarized. Tough task but I'm sure it will be well worth it in the end as I'm still waiting as well. Keep us all posted and good luck.

So for me to apply for PMV it will be just under $5000 (two children included in my app)....then when approved (a year?!) I go over, we get married and then I have to apply for the onshore partner visa(please correct me if i am wrong here) and the cost listed for that is about $7000 more! If I flew over and married him in Aus and then applied for an offshore partner visa here from Canada it would only cost the same as the PMV at $5000 with no extra costs...I believe I am reading this all correctly. That extra $7000 will be extremely difficult for us as neither of us have any financial support from family and we both JUST get by as is it would be far cheaper for me to marry him first and then apply for the offshore partner visa but now I am worried they will say we don't have enough evidence of a genuine ongoing relationship! We have been deleting our text messages all this time and the only emails we have back and forth are the odd times where we have argued with each other and taken the time to email angry emails to each other! Geez had I put more thought into this do many months back I would have saved everything! We have records of his flights coming here, messages going back a little ways and lots of photos of us and our kids together...cards and letters that were mailed to each other but not dated and didn't save the postage. Any suggestions for me? Do you think if we save everything from here on out, provide all the declarations they request, I go over and marry him, and we open a joint bank account at that time (can I even do that on a visitor visa? Marry? And open a bank acct?) do you think that will suffice?


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So for me to apply for PMV it will be just under $5000 (two children included in my app)....then when approved (a year?!) I go over, we get married and then I have to apply for the onshore partner visa(please correct me if i am wrong here) and the cost listed for that is about $7000 more! If I flew over and married him in Aus and then applied for an offshore partner visa here from Canada it would only cost the same as the PMV at $5000 with no extra costs...I believe I am reading this all correctly. That extra $7000 will be extremely difficult for us as neither of us have any financial support from family and we both JUST get by as is it would be far cheaper for me to marry him first and then apply for the offshore partner visa but now I am worried they will say we don't have enough evidence of a genuine ongoing relationship! We have been deleting our text messages all this time and the only emails we have back and forth are the odd times where we have argued with each other and taken the time to email angry emails to each other! Geez had I put more thought into this do many months back I would have saved everything! We have records of his flights coming here, messages going back a little ways and lots of photos of us and our kids together...cards and letters that were mailed to each other but not dated and didn't save the postage. Any suggestions for me? Do you think if we save everything from here on out, provide all the declarations they request, I go over and marry him, and we open a joint bank account at that time (can I even do that on a visitor visa? Marry? And open a bank acct?) do you think that will suffice?
Hi CantoAus
I know the financials are tight, but if you are married the amount of evidence they require to prove your relationship is genuine is manifestly far more than a PMV, and from what you have said you are sadly lacking in the type of evidence you would need. Unfortunately there is no easy way around it. Most of us here have been down the same path, it certainly was difficult but worth it in the long run.

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The extra $7000 is incorrect you pay less when going from pmv to 820. With 2 children under 18 would be about $1800.

The pmv is the better one as it requires less evidence. Also the thing to remember with applications where you met online is that DIBP does not consider the relationship to have begun until you have met in person. Therefore it is up to them if they will accept the evidence prior to meeting in person.

A joint bank account is not enough for a spouse visa. You will need alot more evidence showing a shared life together like supporting each other, joint bills, wills etc.

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So for me to apply for PMV it will be just under $5000 (two children included in my app)....then when approved (a year?!) I go over, we get married and then I have to apply for the onshore partner visa(please correct me if i am wrong here) and the cost listed for that is about $7000 more! If I flew over and married him in Aus and then applied for an offshore partner visa here from Canada it would only cost the same as the PMV at $5000 with no extra costs...I believe I am reading this all correctly. That extra $7000 will be extremely difficult for us as neither of us have any financial support from family and we both JUST get by as is it would be far cheaper for me to marry him first and then apply for the offshore partner visa but now I am worried they will say we don't have enough evidence of a genuine ongoing relationship! We have been deleting our text messages all this time and the only emails we have back and forth are the odd times where we have argued with each other and taken the time to email angry emails to each other! Geez had I put more thought into this do many months back I would have saved everything! We have records of his flights coming here, messages going back a little ways and lots of photos of us and our kids together...cards and letters that were mailed to each other but not dated and didn't save the postage. Any suggestions for me? Do you think if we save everything from here on out, provide all the declarations they request, I go over and marry him, and we open a joint bank account at that time (can I even do that on a visitor visa? Marry? And open a bank acct?) do you think that will suffice?

Hello again CanToAus

Mish and A-Steve are correct your best bet is going to be the PMV and the wait time is "projected" 12 months but there's a good chance it may not take that long as others have received theirs in a 5 to 6 month bracket. I think the embassies put those projections out so people don't waste their time worrying and stressing so much but at the same time it is a possibility it could take that long. But as the others said... EVIDENCE IS KEY, and from what you have described that would fit in the PMV category because the Partner will definitely require more and could lead to rejection without the correct criteria. Keep in mind... NO REFUNDS.

As far as the messages, I had like 6 or 7 pages of FB messages for them to read and the rest were Skype records, Pics, Plane Ticket Stubs/Itentararies etc. They don't wanna read all those messages so if you could pull up a few where yall were getting along you should be fine. I assuming you do Skype correct?

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PMV currently with 2 kids is first payment $4625, then the second payment is $2180.
It works out $100 cheaper than the offshore partner visa. It also gives you some extra time to pay the second fee.

There were massive fee rises in 2013 but none since, so they might milk the cow again soon.


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The extra $7000 is incorrect you pay less when going from pmv to 820. With 2 children under 18 would be about $1800.

The pmv is the better one as it requires less evidence. Also the thing to remember with applications where you met online is that DIBP does not consider the relationship to have begun until you have met in person. Therefore it is up to them if they will accept the evidence prior to meeting in person.

A joint bank account is not enough for a spouse visa. You will need alot more evidence showing a shared life together like supporting each other, joint bills, wills etc.

I am not finding anything online that gives me that sort of pricing....I go onto the immi.gov.au website and for me (in CAD dollars), it says it will cost just shy of $5000 for the PMV (for me and my two children) - then I go to the 820 Visa and it says it will cost $7395 for me and my two kids (CAD). I called and asked and they confirmed that as correct. If someone can prove to me otherwise, it would MAKE MY DAY!!!! I would be so happy....please...anyone?!

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