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Old 05-26-2011, 11:33 AM
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461 Sub-class visa - NZ Citizen query

Hi
I'm a NZ citizen and am emigrating to Aus... My husband and son are English and therefore applying for a 461 sub-class visa which is about $200 and lasts 5 years before they reapply again.
The form is quite straight forward but it asks if you have medical insurance in Aus, which obviously we don't yet, but will have it when we go... but I think they want us to have it before we go.
Does anyone have any experience of this visa, and have any tips at all?
I'm also trying to find out how long it will be before it is granted.
I'm also not sure who to go with for medical insurance... any help would be welcome!
Thx in advance!


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Old 05-27-2011, 10:16 AM
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Hi
I'm a NZ citizen and am emigrating to Aus... My husband and son are English and therefore applying for a 461 sub-class visa which is about $200 and lasts 5 years before they reapply again.
The form is quite straight forward but it asks if you have medical insurance in Aus, which obviously we don't yet, but will have it when we go... but I think they want us to have it before we go.
Does anyone have any experience of this visa, and have any tips at all?
I'm also trying to find out how long it will be before it is granted.
I'm also not sure who to go with for medical insurance... any help would be welcome!
Thx in advance!
Hi I just completed the process myself in Apr 2011. My best advice regarding health insurance is to shop around and purchase overseas visitors insurance because as you will find most OZ health insurance is based on being eligible for Medicare which your spouse and child are not. If you do an online search you will see many companies that cover this type of situtation and is allowed by Immi. We went through AHM insurance for myself and 2 daughters was the cheapest i could find. You don't need proof of insurance until they arrive in Australia.

this is copied from an email from my case officer
In very general terms, if you are planning to obtain private medical insurance through an Australian provider it is likely it will meet the requirements for maintaining health cover. Most Australian insurers will have a product, or range of products, that are suitable for visa holders. When you are making your inquires let the insurer know your visa subclass and they should be able to provide an appropriate policy.

Any policy you obtain should, at a minimum, provide the following cover:

- that covers at least 85% of the costs associated with professional medical services
- outpatient medical practitioner expenses (including general practitioners and specialists)
- including provision for pharmaceuticals ( prescription medication as an in-patient and an outpatient)
- including provision for hospital treatment and accommodation as a private patient during the applicants stay in Australia.

In my case I arrived in Oz on a visitors visa - then applied for the 461 and was issued a bridging visa until my 461 was approved. In the meantime my kids were allowed to start school but I was unable to work. Hope this helped.


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Old 05-28-2011, 08:50 PM
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Thanks for your email - that definitely helps - I will look into the insurance asap.
Did you have to get police clearance also? I have no idea what that really means?
Thanks in advance!


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Hi there,
I agree with rainbowchaser71 with regards to the insurance issue, my wife (Russian citizen) applied for the 461 subclass visa on 3rd May in Moscow. The Australian Embassy approved it today, so processing time was exactly 1 month. Of course it will depend on where you apply for it, as each Consulate will vary, but their service charter for the 461 states it takes 2 - 3 months for approval.
My wife supplied a police clearance check from the Russian Police, which had to be translated, she also supplied a check from the FBI as she had lived in the states for 3 years. The Police check should be from the Country your husband is coming from plus any other Country he has lived in for more than 12 months in the last 10 years.
You are correct in that it is reasonably straight forward, quite cheap and is renewable after the initial 5 years. I asked AU Immigration if there is a limit as to the number of times you can renew and they said 'at this stage, no'
Good luck!
ps. I do know of another case where it was applied for in NZ and was approved in two weeks.


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Hi there,
I agree with rainbowchaser71 with regards to the insurance issue, my wife (Russian citizen) applied for the 461 subclass visa on 3rd May in Moscow. The Australian Embassy approved it today, so processing time was exactly 1 month. Of course it will depend on where you apply for it, as each Consulate will vary, but their service charter for the 461 states it takes 2 - 3 months for approval.
My wife supplied a police clearance check from the Russian Police, which had to be translated, she also supplied a check from the FBI as she had lived in the states for 3 years. The Police check should be from the Country your husband is coming from plus any other Country he has lived in for more than 12 months in the last 10 years.
You are correct in that it is reasonably straight forward, quite cheap and is renewable after the initial 5 years. I asked AU Immigration if there is a limit as to the number of times you can renew and they said 'at this stage, no'
Good luck!
ps. I do know of another case where it was applied for in NZ and was approved in two weeks.
Great, thanks for your info... still haven't lodged it but hopefully will do it next week!


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Hi I am not covered by Medicare because I am from Canada - my husband applied for insurance through his employer here in OZ but we were told that it wasn't sufficient because it was based on someone qualifying for Medicare - Centrelink told us the same thing. Here is what i found on a OZ website

Medicare and Overseas Visitors
Medicare

Eligibility to Medicare by overseas visitors is dependent on the persons county of origin and their Visa. Even those with limited access to Medicare should take overseas visitors health insurance.

Overseas Visitors ineligible for Medicare

In the majority of cases, visitors to Australia do not have full access to the Australian National Health Scheme, Medicare, and are therefore responsible for all costs associated with private hospital, medical and para-medical health care rendered in Australia.

The Australian private health care sector provides very high quality services at costs comparable to many other developed countries.

Overseas Visitors Health Cover (OVHC) is a type of health insurance designed specifically for those people who are not entitled to full Medicare cover. Various forms of this insurance are available from a range of Australian Health Funds and insurance companies. OVHC generally covers services associated with episodes of hospitalisation and doctors fees.

If you are planning to stay in Australia you should make sure that you are covered by adequate health insurance. HICA (website) can provide health insurance options to Overseas Visitors including a comprehensive personal assessment and advice to ensure you have appropriate cover from the date of arrival in Australia. Contact us for further details.

Hope this helps... as for Police Clearance I had to get one from Canada. I believe it is required for any country you have lived in prior to OZ from age 16 and older


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Hi I am not covered by Medicare because I am from Canada - my husband applied for insurance through his employer here in OZ but we were told that it wasn't sufficient because it was based on someone qualifying for Medicare - Centrelink told us the same thing. Here is what i found on a OZ website

Medicare and Overseas Visitors
Medicare

Eligibility to Medicare by overseas visitors is dependent on the persons county of origin and their Visa. Even those with limited access to Medicare should take overseas visitors health insurance.

Overseas Visitors ineligible for Medicare

In the majority of cases, visitors to Australia do not have full access to the Australian National Health Scheme, Medicare, and are therefore responsible for all costs associated with private hospital, medical and para-medical health care rendered in Australia.

The Australian private health care sector provides very high quality services at costs comparable to many other developed countries.

Overseas Visitors Health Cover (OVHC) is a type of health insurance designed specifically for those people who are not entitled to full Medicare cover. Various forms of this insurance are available from a range of Australian Health Funds and insurance companies. OVHC generally covers services associated with episodes of hospitalisation and doctors fees.

If you are planning to stay in Australia you should make sure that you are covered by adequate health insurance. HICA (website) can provide health insurance options to Overseas Visitors including a comprehensive personal assessment and advice to ensure you have appropriate cover from the date of arrival in Australia. Contact us for further details.

Hope this helps... as for Police Clearance I had to get one from Canada. I believe it is required for any country you have lived in prior to OZ from age 16 and older
Great, thanks for your help - I better get on with everything I think!!


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Great, thanks for your info... still haven't lodged it but hopefully will do it next week!
Thanks for your update Marriedtheenglish. Let us know how you go with the processing of the 461 visa. cheers


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hi everyone, im also applying for 461 visa in nz, im from the uk and according to the immigration website it says that we have reciprocal health care agreements with austrailia,
on the 147 application form under"health insurance requirements"it says that you may not appy to holding health insurance if you enroll with medicare,

will they approve a visa without proof of having insurance?

will they let me into the country if i advise them i will enroll with medicare?

if not how do i know when start the insurance policy from as some cases take months before approved?

do i have to buy insurance for 5 years for this visa?

hope someone can help me with this


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I am a NZ citizen and my partner is English. We've been together over 10 years and are mortgaged with a child. We submitted my partner's visa application to the Australian Embassy and it took 2 days to process! Mailed it in on Monday and had the visa grant number on Friday. Visa's are electronic. No health check was required. We included a cover letter explaining we had travel insurance on our credit card that would cover us for the first 3 months and that we were in the process of setting up private insurance. Hope this helps anyone else applying for a the same type of visa.


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