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Old 11-04-2014, 02:37 AM
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820 De facto partner visa help!

Hi Everyone,

I was hoping to get some help applying for my partner visa. My partner is Greek and living here in Sydney with me so we will be applying onshore. His current 457 visa is due to expire in March next year so we will be submitting our 820 defacto visa around January/feb.

We do not fulfil the 12 month requirement and just formally registered our relationship yesterday with birth deaths and marriages in NSW. What I am hoping to get some advice about was whether people think we would have much success in getting approval due to the length of our relationship (when we will submit the application we will have been together for 7-8 months). I am aware that this would just be other peopleís advice and opinions but I would really value anyoneís input!

Some information about our relationship:
We met in July 2013 and remained friends for a period of about 12 months before anything happened. We first started dating in June of this year. We have always been mutually exclusive ie there was never a period of time when we dated other people. We moved in together in October 2014 and his name was added on to my lease by my real estate agent.

We have other evidence like a joint bank account opened last month which we pay rent out of and other household activities like grocery shopping etc. as well as both of our names are on our household content insurance. We are each otherís beneficiaries for our superannuation and when my car insurance is renewed later this month, I will be adding him as a driver.

Other evidence that we will be including will be photos of each other with our families and friends, we have stat decís from relatives (his uncle, his cousins and my twin sister and mother) which all verify our relationship. Other stuff like ticket stubs to a greek dance that we went to with his family, I have receipts of his birthday present and Ive also kept receipts from our dinner dates, movies and screen shots of mutual friends on facebook which include each others family members.

Do you think once we get everything ready, that this will be strong enough for approval? We have a lot of strong evidence and we are also going to write up wills with each other in it but my concern is that immigration will take one look at us only dating since June even though we are registered and laugh in our faces. Is this a genuine concern? If we have sufficient evidence of us being together and having legitimate plans to stay together in the future, do you think we will be ok?

As you can see, im freaking out a little! Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks!

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We do recommend living together atleast 6 months with a registered relationship or marriage so you will have more than that so that will help as well.

You do have good evidence and having registering the relationship early on is good too and not just a last minute thing.

Evidence wise, do you have joint bills at all like electricity and phone? Also in regards to the car insurance you can add your partner before renewal (I was able to do that for my husband).

It is great that you will get wills as well, because that will help.

If you buy things off ebay is good to open up a joint ebay account and pay pal account then you will have joint items sent to the address as well.


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Thanks so much for replying - i appreciate it.

Just to clarify - we won't have been living together for 7 months we will have been together for 7 months at the time we submit the application. My partner and I have been officially exclusive for 4 months to date and living together for about 2 months. When we submit everything we will have been living together for 3-4 months. Do you think this will count against us?


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DIBP won't consider your relationship before you began living together (they don't consider what's essentially dating as far as they're concerned). A 3-4 month de facto relationship will be taking quite a risk in getting approval. If your partner can get another 457 visa, it would be ideal to enable you to build more time as a de facto relationship to submit a more solid application.

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I think that is a question to post in Ask Mark as he is a migration agent just to confirm his thinking.

Why not lodge the visa application online and wait until the week before the 457 is due to expire to lodge it? That way you can have longer time living together before lodging it.

I know that it is recommended to live together for atleast 6 months in order to gather enough evidence. I think this is mainly due to the fact that alot of the bills only come every 3 months.

In the eyes of DIBP for de facto relationships they consider any period prior to living together as dating only.


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Thanks for your help Maggie-May and Mish. If we wait to submit our application right before his visa expiry date then we will just be shy of living together for 6 months by one day - his visa expires March 4 and our lease started September 5th! (I realised I wrote october 2014 in my previous post) I guess then the only issue would be to find a way to get our hands on some bills in time that show we've been together since september! If we submited the application about a week in advance, do you know when it would be first looked at by a CO? What I mean is - is it after a few days, weeks etc before it's even picked up or opened online?


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Don't forget that 6 months is just what is recommend by migration agents. Nobody knows if it will be okay for DIBP. But 6 months will give you time to gather some evidence.

Usually for onshore applications the case officer doesn't seem to be assigned until around 9 months. However, I do believe that within the first month someone will have a quick look to make sure it is a valid application.

With the online application you will be able to upload new evidence whenever you have some but you should keep in mind the 60 file limit.

Have you guys got any plans to get married? That always makes the application stronger than a de facto relationship.


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We will be applying online so its good to know that i can keep submitting evidence after initially applying. Getting married is definately something we plan to do but we arent engaged and its not something we want to do just for the visa so unfortunately not an option for us in this case hopefully our other evidence is strong enough to get us approved with just 6 month proof of defacto! Do wills which name each other as trustees/executors carry much weight?


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any furniture you guys purchased together? you can have them printed both name i think, we have brought a lot of things together over the years together, even some of our receipt only addressed to me only however the money we paid for the furniture was from both of us. so we just highlight on our statement with explanation next to it. Travel receipt etc? as for the "Wills" im not too certain if it does carry a huge weight, because for me, we don't own any properties or any huge price tag on things besides furniture/technologies and household so i dont see a point with the "Wills" till later in life when we decided to buy a house together etc. but then again it also depends on how much you have saved up in bank etc well thats my opinion on will


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No single piece of evidence helps what helps is all the single pieces of evidence added together. So having a will, will definitely help.

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