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Old 12-18-2014, 07:23 AM
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They just write it on a bit of paper - there is no specific form.
Hi Engaus

Just to let you know that there IS a specific form for the Stat Decs. It's Form 888 and can be downloaded from the Immi site.

There have been some posts on this forum that various CO's have requested Stat Decs that were not on the official forms to be resubmitted, but other people say that they just used a letter format - like yours - and it was accepted. I'm guessing that some people do a better job of the Stat Decs than others and all the required information is in the letters they write, but some people leave out important info and so the CO rejects it.

Anyway .. worth knowing that there is actually a form.

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It probably depends on the embassy that you apply at for their requirements for non-residents. Where we applied the embassy told us just to write them on a plain piece of paper and sign them, no witnesses or anything.

Always best to check with the embassy what their requirements are.

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Yeah we have the 888s sorted already, got about 4 people doing them for us, all Australian residents. The statements from people back in UK are just extra, so just getting them to do it on paper and sign, but the required 888s for the application are fine and all sorted, these statements from home are just a boost

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Hi Engaus

Just to let you know that there IS a specific form for the Stat Decs. It's Form 888 and can be downloaded from the Immi site.

There have been some posts on this forum that various CO's have requested Stat Decs that were not on the official forms to be resubmitted, but other people say that they just used a letter format - like yours - and it was accepted. I'm guessing that some people do a better job of the Stat Decs than others and all the required information is in the letters they write, but some people leave out important info and so the CO rejects it.

Anyway .. worth knowing that there is actually a form.
I think you have misunderstood me LizBee...

There IS a form - form 888 - that Australian citizens and PR holders need to fill in. But I was referring to NON Australian Citizens and PR holders. There is no specific form for them - they simply write it on a plain bit of paper. Having a stat dec filled in by someone who is not in Australia is completely pointless because it's not legally binding - if it's not legally binding what is the point?

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... having a stat dec filled in by someone who is not in Australia is completely pointless because it's not legally binding - if it's not legally binding what is the point?
I don't fully agree that there's no point in disregarding a format just because it's not legally binding. Using Form 888 forces people to answer the exact questions that the CO wants proof of (these are: how do you know the applicant, how often are you in contact, how do you know the relationship is genuine and enduring, give reasons, an 'other' section, well as specifics regarding their contact details and occupation.)
We made our non-Aus relatives/friends use the official form. Otherwise I felt that some people might write a long, sweet, meandering letter but not include the critical facts that supported our case.

(However, I did misunderstand your initial post - I didn't realise you were referring to non-Aus citizens only, I thought you meant there was no Stat Dec form at all.)

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This is why I told kerrylouise that I gave the people doing statements for me a list of things I wanted them to mention - which took about 5mins for me to put together.

But from my point of view - unless you are simply using it as a guide, there is no point getting them to fill in form 888 if it's not legally binding - which is the entire point of having Australian citizens fill form 888 out, so that if it's shown that they are lying then can be held accountable in a court of law.

That's just how i feel, but for format reasons, I can understand why people would have family members fill in the form 888 even though they were not Australian residents/PR

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I just asked my mum, one of my close friends and one of my friends that spent some time around us in Aus to just write something answering those questions


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From page 1 of Form 888

Note: If the visa applicant is outside Australia and is unable to have an Australian citizen or Australian permanent resident complete this form, any person who knows the applicant and their partner or fiancé(e) may also complete this form.

The person completing this form must provide evidence of their current name, age and, where applicable, Australian citizenship or Australian permanent residency. All copies must be certified.

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