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Old 12-23-2014, 06:00 AM
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Mine don't use the word "defacto relationship" but i'm not worried, they say that we live together as a couple which is the definition of a defacto relationship.

Plus they have all the witness information if they were that worried why wouldn't they contact them instead of just declining an application because they didn't use the word defacto.

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Seems to me that Jeremy is a professional who has heard this straight from the horses mouth, so to speak. Those who have already submitted can't do much about it and I don't necessarily think he's suggesting they have reason to panic, however this is information that the average future applicant would otherwise not have access to and therefore should be taking very seriously.

Just because we've gotten wind of this before and "seen no refusals". Should be easy to ask friends/family to include one little phrase instead of another.

Well you can see that it certainly caused some panic. Which is why I was trying to prod for more information to ease the anxiety - but never got a reply.

What I didn't agree with was how it was put across. If you are going to come onto a forum, predominantly full of people applying for partner visas, and dump that on them, then provide as much information as possible. Mark N often does posts like this and will generally give his thoughts on the issue.

To say that your application will be refused if you don't use the word "defacto" in form 888's to me is ridiculous if you have strong relationship evidence. Another agent I spoke to said that this wouldn't happen, and it would give you grounds for appeal.

So, who knows.

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Well you can see that it certainly caused some panic. Which is why I was trying to prod for more information to ease the anxiety - but never got a reply.

What I didn't agree with was how it was put across. If you are going to come onto a forum, predominantly full of people applying for partner visas, and dump that on them, then provide as much information as possible. Mark N often does posts like this and will generally give his thoughts on the issue.

To say that your application will be refused if you don't use the word "defacto" in form 888's to me is ridiculous if you have strong relationship evidence. Another agent I spoke to said that this wouldn't happen, and it would give you grounds for appeal.

So, who knows.

Fair enough. And yes, more info would be helpful. Though perhaps that's all he knows. Anyway, I completely agree that refusing an application for not using the word defacto even when there are reams of strong relationship/co-habitation/to-the-exclusion-of-all-others evidence is beyond ridiculous. At least the solution is fairly simple, from now on anyway.

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I think Jeremy is just kindly passing information for future applicants. But my friend who's doing her visa, her migration agent also telling her to make sure everyone who writes stay dec write "married" (because she was married) not just "a couple" to clearly states their status.


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Here's more info:
They say that it's a "mandatory requirement for any applicant who is subject to a Section 48 bar which prevents them lodging an application whilst in Australia and seeking to have the bar waived and/or required to meet Schedule 3." I don't know what any of that means, but there you go lol

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Here's more info:
They say that it's a "mandatory requirement for any applicant who is subject to a Section 48 bar which prevents them lodging an application whilst in Australia and seeking to have the bar waived and/or required to meet Schedule 3." I don't know what any of that means, but there you go lol
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Section 48 has nothing to do with the wording on form 888. It says if you do not hold a substantive visa and have had a visa application refused onshore, or you have had a visa cancelled onshore, you can only make a very limited number of other visa applications onshore.
I emailed the Perth office and just pasted the response I got. If it has nothing to do with it then they must be giving out the wrong info.

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I think Jeremy is just kindly passing information for future applicants. But my friend who's doing her visa, her migration agent also telling her to make sure everyone who writes stay dec write "married" (because she was married) not just "a couple" to clearly states their status.
I have NO issue with agents passing on info obviously. But do it in a way that doesn't leave a lot of huge questions, and doesn't make people feel as though their application is going to be declined on this small detail!

I think it's important that people know whether or not their application will be declined because of it. Which is what was basically said in the original post and what I was trying to establish to assist anyone else reading this post in the future or people with current applications in.

Anyway I'll leave it at that, I'm not trying to be difficult! Merry Christmas everyone

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I emailed the Perth office and just pasted the response I got. If it has nothing to do with it then they must be giving out the wrong info.
Yeah, unless those conditions apply to you, then that's just confusing matters and not really that helpful! Grant Williams' blog deals with Section 48 here:https://immigrationptyltd.wordpress....ection-48-bar/

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As I said, I just pasted what they told me. The Perth office is confusing, and they frequently pass on confusing/redundant/conflicting information lol

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