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PMV to 820 or to 309? oh dear now what?!


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Old 07-17-2011, 04:28 AM
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Question PMV to 820 or to 309? oh dear now what?!


Sorry for the multitude of questions across several threads, but our situation just changed. We were granted a PMV on 12 July and yes that is wonderful. We will marry soon, at the end of this month (30/07) in Australia (the legal ceremony here in au and the celebration in Turkey).

BUT the catch is we have to return to Turkey for 8 months on 25 August 2011. So we will have three weeks here in AU before heading to Turkey for 8 months. Me (the Aussie/sponsor) will obviously have to give up my job etc. The question now is which visa do we apply for? A rush job on the onshore 820 which means I would have three weeks to get the info together because we have to leave AU for 8 months I think the PMV will expire by my calculations (issued on 12 July and valid for 9 months, but our 8 month stint in Turkey starts in September) so he can't come back to AU on that one.
OR do we go the offshore option 309? Any ideas, my head is spinning

(and yes, I have read diac website and that damn partner booklet over and over and over but no info about a situation like ours )

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Hi, I've followed you're other posts

Why are you going for 8 months, just curious? There's no way that you can go for 7, for example? If you can get back to Australia before the PMV expires (having prepared the application mostly in Turkey), then you could still apply onshore.

The thing is with the offshore partner visa, is that the applicant has to be offshore when a decision is made. They can notify immigration and travel to Aus for some time during the decision making, but they will have to leave when the visa is ready to be granted - which means money spent on plane tickets...

There's nothing stopping you from applying offshore however, and certainly it would give you more time to gather the required evidence. There is no way that you would ever be able to complete the application in 3 weeks...it's impossible, there's too much to do (collecting all evidence, getting people to do statutory declarations, photocopying documents, getting certified copies, translations, police checks.....much much more).

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If it was me, i would be getting back here prior to the 9month exp date.
How badly does your hubby want to live here?
With the PMV having beeen approved, I would follow that stream.

BUT, give immi a call see what they have to say.


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If it was me, i would be getting back here prior to the 9month exp date.
How badly does your hubby want to live here?
With the PMV having beeen approved, I would follow that stream.

BUT, give immi a call see what they have to say.
I agree with Turboadam, you went to the trouble to get the PMV that it would be a shame to let it go to waste....in fact, if you apply onshore while on the PMV the partner visa only costs $1220, but if you apply offshore you'd have to pay $1995...


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Thanks for the advice, unfortunately the timing of it is such a pain - and yes he has to go back to Turkey for exactly 8 months, he has a commitment there to his government so cannot reduce it or choose the dates, they are set by the gov't - he must do it as he needs the official piece of paper or he can't register to work here (specialist medical doctor). Of course he and I want to live here, but he can't work unless he does this, we have only found this out after our PMV was approved, it has been one drama after another! So I guess now our only choice would be to apply offshore.

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Thanks for the advice, unfortunately the timing of it is such a pain - and yes he has to go back to Turkey for exactly 8 months, he has a commitment there to his government so cannot reduce it or choose the dates, they are set by the gov't - he must do it as he needs the official piece of paper or he can't register to work here (specialist medical doctor). Of course he and I want to live here, but he can't work unless he does this, we have only found this out after our PMV was approved, it has been one drama after another! So I guess now our only choice would be to apply offshore.
That's a shame, but that's life. At least you know that since your PMV got approved, that you obviously were able to prove a genuine relationship, so there's no reason why you wouldn't be able to achieve a good result with the offshore partner visa. Good luck


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I really would call Immi asap they may be able to change something/help.

If he must do this course there may be a way to avoid having to pay and WAIT again.

You do realise that the new application will be subject to the 13 month processing time yeah? And he will have no visa to be here during that time.


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MEH MEH MEH! ... you didnt know about the 8 months before applying for PMV? ... who knows what will happen to the forms and imigration rules?


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I really would call Immi asap they may be able to change something/help.

If he must do this course there may be a way to avoid having to pay and WAIT again.

You do realise that the new application will be subject to the 13 month processing time yeah? And he will have no visa to be here during that time.
There processing time for an offshore partner visa (subclass 820) is 5 months for a low risk country, and 12 for a high risk country - so Turkey is high risk I think, but that doesn't mean they would necessarily take the whole 12 months to process. The partner could also visit Australia on a tourist visa during the decision making process, as long as he lets immigration know and leaves when the visa is ready to be granted.


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There processing time for an offshore partner visa (subclass 820) is 5 months for a low risk country, and 12 for a high risk country - so Turkey is high risk I think, but that doesn't mean they would necessarily take the whole 12 months to process. The partner could also visit Australia on a tourist visa during the decision making process, as long as he lets immigration know and leaves when the visa is ready to be granted.
just missing out to be with your loved one for 1 day is worth $1000s to me... and going down that process (turist visa) will be many long days in front of skype .. where you can see your loved one but not get a hug. so consider both.


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