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Old 12-24-2014, 11:35 PM
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In need of some urgent advice.

Firstly thank you for any help given and Merry Christmas

My partner and I were planning on doing an 801 visa application in the middle of January. He is currently on a visitor visa from the U.S, we were told it would be fine to do this from immigration. However, last night I saw that the visa application fees are going up from January 1st and we don't currently have the whole amount needed to apply before January 1st.

Can my partner fly out to N.Z on Sunday (we have found a cheap flight and booked it) and lodge a 309 application online? He is only there for 2hrs. Will it be accepted or does he need to be out of the country when they receive it, so that Monday?

If not I guess he still flies out to update the 3 month visa limit and we use the new 3 months to save for the onshore or save enough for him to stay in N.Z for a few days.

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Old 12-25-2014, 12:47 AM
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All of the partner visas are increasing by 50%, not just the 801.


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Firstly thank you for any help given and Merry Christmas

Can my partner fly out to N.Z on Sunday (we have found a cheap flight and booked it) and lodge a 309 application online? He is only there for 2hrs. Will it be accepted or does he need to be out of the country when they receive it, so that Monday?

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Merry Christmas to you.

DIBP website states "you must be outside Australia when you apply", so I guess your partner qualifies.

I have not done an online partner application, but I think the entire process is pretty much automated, so a 2 hour overseas windows will suffice.

However, there're some implications.

1) If the website system, or internet connection crashes during that 2 hr window... etc.... I'm not sure whether it's possible to prefill but I think it's possible to fill up the online form first when he's onshore, and submit it only when you're out of Australia.

2) You partner can't work while 309 is being processed. While you may save on initial visa costs, your partner may lose when it comes to missed opportunity costs due to not be able to work.

3) U turn trips out of Australia. Every 3 months, your partner has to make you turn trips to do visa runs out and come back in. Costs adds up. With current processing times, your partner will probably need 3 of these trips

4) If interview is required, your partner probably has to fly to US which is where his country of usual residence, and where the processing will be done. There's another few thousand.


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Thank you for the reply. We don't mind having to fly in and out every 3 months and the not working, is not a problem. We just need to know if applying in NZ is okay as it isn't his country of origin and if the application receipt is instant. I hope I make sense.


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Old 12-25-2014, 03:49 AM
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Please check with Mark if it is ok. I am just saying that because our acknowledgement says "The department has not yet assessed the validity of the application made by the applicant(s) listed above. The department will contact you if it assesses the application made by any of the above applicant(s) is invalid."

I know with paper it is assessed when they receive it but with online maybe it gets assessed the next business day.

Therefore this is why I reckon best to check with Mark to be 100% sure.


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Old 12-25-2014, 05:06 AM
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Okay thanks, I will make a thread when I get home and ask Mark.


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I don't understand why you would be applying for the 309 instead of the 820 if he's already there with you? The level of evidence required is essentially the same. Why go to the trouble of an offshore visa? Also, from my relatively recent experience with the online system, 2 hours will not be enough time to make the application, unless you've got it essentially complete and saved and are just going to log in, submit, and pay for it.

Edit - I just looked at the pricing table and see that the 309 is cheaper than the 820 by about $1400, so that's why you're looking at the 309 option?


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Old 12-25-2014, 05:19 AM
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Indymama: I belive it is because they don't have enough money for the 820 and flights to NZ are cheap.

OP: Just another thought that I didn't think of is that he would hardly be in NZ at all to be able to lodge the application (unless you are doing it here when he is in NZ) when you take into account boarding time and clearing customs.

Also if he can't do the 309 in NZ the problem you will face when he comes back on the tourist visa is that he will most likely be questioned because of such a short time out of Australia. If he has lodged a 309 at least he will have that as proof.


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The reason why we decided to do the 309 instead of the 820 is the upcoming cost increase. We were originally intending to apply the middle of January. However, last night I saw the information about the cost going up Jan 1st. Right now we don't have the full amount to do the 820. So I wondered if we can submit a 309 while my partner is in Auckland for 2hrs.

The application is already filled and just needs to be submitted.


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Old 12-25-2014, 05:21 AM
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Do you have a credit card (not a debit card) that you can use to pay for it and then just pay the bank back? If you lodge onshore then your partner can work after the BVA kicks in.


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