PR doesnt come with a passport at all?

 

Sorry, I didn't explain this clear enough.
I will explain my plan, I just lodge my Australian citizenship application.
While my RP still valid, (when the citizenship is granted, i am assuming the PR will be invalid), I can move to NZ and get their resident visa. If I can stay their for two years, and each year I stay in NZ for 184 days, I am eligible to apply NZ PR which is a ture PR, no expiration, no stay requirement.

Then you original passport will always have a long term visa, this is the key, and your home country will never found out you have an OZ passport.

 

I’m not to sure I understand. Once you are granted Australian citizenship you wish to them fly to New Zealand and stay there to gain PR there?

You also want to do all of this without the country you were born in (and are a current passport holder of) finding out?

 

I'm not to sure I understand. Once you are granted Australian citizenship you wish to them fly to New Zealand and stay there to gain PR there?

You also want to do all of this without the country you were born in (and are a current passport holder of) finding out?

I guess he/she is trying to avoid revocation of his/her citizenship of the country of his/her origin upon gaining Australian citizenship. If the country of origin does not allow dual citizenships by law, they normally will enforce automatic loss of citizenship upon its citizens acquiring another country's citizenship.

In this case, using an Australian passport (or any other passport) and going back to his/her home country will result in the cancellation/loss of his/her original citizenship. Holding a NZ PR (the never expired one) attached to the original passport will enable him/her to go in/out of his/her country by using the that passport without being found out he/she has another country's citizenship.

The catch here he/she may have to fly out of the home country to NZ first before heading back to Australia if he/she is trying to keep the original passport and not being found by the custom / immigration of the orignal country.

I understand people are reluctant to be forced to give up their citizenship by law upon getting another citizenship. Gaining NZ PR by using AUS PR is completely legal, but this workaround for the purpose of keeping dual citizenships is not recommended, it may be against law of the original country and people may face serious consequence if being caught out.

 

But if you are able to gain residency in NZ based on AU citizenship, I don't see how that NZ residency can be attached to a Chinese passport. You may also find that if you try to exit China to NZ, the airline will want to know your immigration status in NZ to make sure you can legally enter the country. So trying to keep dual citizenship a secret from China may well backfire.

 

It is viable unfortunately, this is a workaround. He is getting NZ PR through AU PR,which the NZ PR will be attached to his Chinese passport. Later on when he gets AUS citizenship, he will have a AUS passport and a Chinese passport with NZ residency visa. Each time he goes back to AUS from China, he can use Chinese passport with NZ PR to exit China and fly
to NZ first. No issue with airline and Chinese border, and then use AUS passport to enter and exit NZ, and of course AU passport when entering AU.

 

Seems like a rather elaborate way to dupe the Chinese government, who I assume wouldn't be happy if they eventually find out.

 

Yes, to be honest it is not good. But as a Chinese Citizen you don't feel safe, as you may know the boss of Interpol was arrest in China with no explanation. They are using the CPC's policy to arrest him with no time limitation. Another example is detention of a Swedish Chinese Gui Minhai, although he has Swedish passport, he was still arrested by Chinese police due to his published book. Lucky, he is Swedish, the news was focused by other countries medias, he was not torched. If he did not have a Swedish passport, he may vanished from China. You can search these incident in wikipedia.

And if they notice you publish anything against with them from oversea, and you holding other countries passport. They will refuse to give you visa to China. Lots of people escaped to others countries during 1989's protests, they probably will never see their families in China again. If your name is on the list, you will not be able to gain a visa to China, and your family number will not be able to get a passport in China.

As you are from Canada, you may not understand all this sh*t, but it is true. I love my home country, but not the present regime.