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CollegeGirl, I didn't even realise this was going to be a problem.
This has vecome more of a problem than I once though because now my boss is telling me she thinks she lost my group certificate.
If she has in fact lost it, is there any way that I can do it without my group certificate?
I've never done tax before :(
As you have never done tax before, I need to ask this question ... do you have a TFN? I just need to ask as some people don't have one.

You can ring the ATO and ask about payment summary (they call them payment summaries now not group certificates) but from memory you tell the ATO how much you got paid into your bank account and they will tell you what the tax is and you fill out a statutory declaration. Something like that anyway. It is really stupid though considering all employers are required to send the payment summaries to the ATO, so if they have them why can't they give you a copy *sigh*

Which year does your boss think they have lost? I would also think that most businesses do payroll on computer so they could just print out another copy for you and also why you weren't provided with one at the end of the financial year is another matter.

If you employer says that they can't find just say to them that you will contact the ATO and see if they can help. It could also be that your employer has not lodged the payment summaries as well.

I would also ask the ATO when you ring about lodging a return, they may also say you are not required to lodge on but if they do you will need to complete a "return not necessary" form that way later down the track you won't get fined or anything for not lodging returns.
 
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Okay ill keep that in mind. I think ill put in as much stuff as possible to convince them! Reading about how many pages people have written, I think ill write as much as possible. Thanks :)
 
Your annual income tax Notice of Assessment is a good evidence of your income and your bank statements would be sufficient evidence for your financial position.

There is no right or wrong answer as to the format of relationship statement. I believe it would be even more difficult to write your own statement if you have some "sample" to follow / refer.

For the statements from family and friends, they can just fill up the Form 888 if they are Aus citizen or PR. If they are not, then they can write up a stat dec according to the law in their country.
Hi,

Just wondering if stat dec wanna be filled offshore, can I get them to fill in form 888 as well and a copy of their ID and then just get them to witness sign it according to their country JP like equivelent? is that ok? or only Australians need to fil in form 888 and offshore people just fill in blnak paper or something?

thanks very much
 
Far too many :rolleyes:

We went for roughly 2 per month we've been together (1.5years). These usually depict a main event from that month, e.g. travel, meeting respective families, social events with mutual friends and tie in with evidence provided in the "joint travel", "joint social events" etc. sections.
We also made sure to put in photos that show us with those people that provided statutory declarations, just to strengthen those further.

We were actually aiming for half that amount of photos, just 1 per month. But some of them we felt so strongly about we didn't want to cut them out (e.g. family visits).
Hi,

Is it better to have all the photos in a single pdf files with all the tags and everything and titles to seperate evenst, etc.... or having a seperate pdf file for each even?

is it easier for the CO officer in other end to see seperate pdf attachments or have it all in one single pdf attached?

thanks very much
 
Hi
Yes do your tax as a matter of some urgency, however from my own experience I can tell you that as long as you declare yourself and show the ATO that you are doing what is required they do not impose a penalty. ATO usually imposes a penalty where the payer ie You owe them a substantial amount, which from what you have indicated will not be the case.

It is more likely that your employer may have a problem if they have not paid your tax to the ATO.
So my advice is don't panic, just get it done
Good luck
Cheers
SBM
 
If you are the sponsor I don't think the question about debt to the government is asked of you. I thought that is only asked of the applicant.

However get your tax done, even if your employer can not locate the copy of the group cert/payment summary they will have other records depending on how they do their accounts. From there new ones can be generated. A friend of mine payed his taxes just for 9 or 10 years never got around to doing his returns - they found him and gave him a demand of $1,200,000 of payment mostly in compound interest and fines based on guessed numbers. ATO are not nice if you don't contact them.
 
ampk said:
If you are the sponsor I don't think the question about debt to the government is asked of you. I thought that is only asked of the applicant. However get your tax done, even if your employer can not locate the copy of the group cert/payment summary they will have other records depending on how they do their accounts. From there new ones can be generated. A friend of mine payed his taxes just for 9 or 10 years never got around to doing his returns - they found him and gave him a demand of $1,200,000 of payment mostly in compound interest and fines based on guessed numbers. ATO are not nice if you don't contact them.
My understanding is somewhat different, I hold the belief that they will check a sponsor or is it when you are required to give assurance of support, which are two different things? for debt to the commonwealth, secondly the scenario outlined above is an extreme case, from your description I would not worry at all, just call ATO and tell them, as the poster above stated his friend didn't do it for many years he could hardly claim a simple oversight.

ATO will be harsh if you try to avoid or they find you first, but don't stress about it you are not in the same space as the gent above, not sure why he would tell you such a horror story really
Cheers
SBM
 
Hi,

Just wondering if stat dec wanna be filled offshore, can I get them to fill in form 888 as well and a copy of their ID and then just get them to witness sign it according to their country JP like equivelent? is that ok? or only Australians need to fil in form 888 and offshore people just fill in blnak paper or something?

thanks very much
Form 888 is only used for Australians. Also for pmv application you don't need a form 888 they are only compulsory for the spouse/de facto visa.

Also my fiances friends just did a statement and signed it they didn't sign it in front of anyone (the embassy in cairo told us them signing it only was ok and we had no issue) and just provided their id too.
 
Sorry SMB,
My point of sponsor was to inform that he is not giving false information to immi, as I don't believe the forms asks the sponsor that question. As was indicated previously in the post. (they may check the sponsor background for debt, I am not sure.)

Yes it is a factual horror story, but as said by the poster 2.5 years that equals 3 financial years of returns approaching fast 4. That also will be hard to explain as an oversight. It needs his urgent attention to contact the ATO, I also explained that there is ways to reproduce his Payment summaries. I could not think of a bigger nightmare than dealing with the PMV and the ATO at the same time. As you said he only has to contact them and they will cooperate and allow time to sort the past years paperwork.
 
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